Oberhamer Speed Boot

[illinisk8er07]

I am in need of a Oberhamer speed boot, my friend is looking for it doesn't know what number it is but it has the flame in the middle of the foot. If anyone has any idea or has a pair for sale drop me a line. Women's size 8. Thank you in advance.

[chuckboucher]

If it's a shorter boot that has a wide white stripe down the center of each side, containing the Oberhamer "O" that has a flame extending from it, the boot is the XL-35.

If this is indeed the boot, good luck finding it, since they stopped producing these boots in the early to mid 80's and Oberhamer is no longer in business.

[xlracer]

Tell your friend to hang tight. I know of someone that is in the process of retooling the old Oberhamer 351's and 641's. He says he should have all of the patterns cut by the New Year and ready to start making new boot based on these great classics. I should have one in hand in a few weeks to try out. I will be spreading the word after I have a chance to skate on them. If they are as good as old Roy's boots he is going to make a lot of people really happy.

[Kennedy]

Tell your friend to hang tight. I know of someone that is in the process of retooling the old Oberhamer 351's and 641's. He says he should have all of the patterns cut by the New Year and ready to start making new boot based on these great classics. I should have one in hand in a few weeks to try out. I will be spreading the word after I have a chance to skate on them. If they are as good as old Roy's boots he is going to make a lot of people really happy.

Your not kidding that he will make a lot of people happy (I would be included). I have been needing a new pair of skates, an Obie replica boot would be nice.

[illinisk8er07]

Thanks guys for all your help, keep me updated.

[peakrut]

Just found this post would be cool to have the boot, hopefully is leather.Tell your friend to hang tight. I know of someone that is in the process of retooling the old Oberhamer 351's and 641's. He says he should have all of the patterns cut by the New Year and ready to start making new boot based on these great classics. I should have one in hand in a few weeks to try out. I will be spreading the word after I have a chance to skate on them. If they are as good as old Roy's boots he is going to make a lot of people really happy.

[xlracer]

I will send my source an email and get a time frame on this new boot. He is supposed to come to Nashville in March but I hope he can send me a pair before then. Once I have a pair and get a chance to skate on them. I will put a review of them on every message board out there.

[dentbob]

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[peakrut]

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[xlracer]

Talked to my boot man. He says the first one should be finished in the next week. He is coming to town in March and I hope he will have mine made at that time. He is hoping that he can start taking orders by the end of March first of April.

[ncsk8rgirl]

Tell him I will give him my first born if he can make a white 351 replica in a 7 1/2 and bring it to Tenn with him..:D :D I can drive to meet him for the exchange with the child in tow. She is 14 and is a great dishwasher.. LOL

[RS Dave]

OMG!! Child slavery for skate boots. What is the world coming to?? :eek:

[ncsk8rgirl]

OMG!! Child slavery for skate boots. What is the world coming to?? :eek:

Gee wiz... I have another one... :tongue:

[chuckboucher]

XL, any chance your contact can make an old Featherlight replica? That was far and away my favorite boot, especially the 1/2" thick foam on the tongue.

Unfortunately, it was made of kangaroo and the inner developed holes really quickly.

[janneman]

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sorry for ripping this thread - but being kinda freak in audio-instrumentation... this name oberhamer keeps calling up associations to the magic, famous, good ole synthesizer that was used by ELO, Queen, and so on...
http://www.sequencer.de/pix/oberheim/obx_l.jpg

(oberheim OB-X)

[RS Dave]

sorry for ripping this thread - but being kinda freak in audio-instrumentation... this name oberhamer keeps calling up associations to the magic, famous, good ole synthesizer that was used by ELO, Queen, and so on...
http://www.sequencer.de/pix/oberheim/obx_l.jpg

(oberheim OB-X)

Janne!! You old ripper! :rolleyes:

[xlracer]

Chuck I agree with you that was also my fav. I pulled the heel off of it though. I have asked him to make me a 641 without the extra straps. That should be very similar to the original featherweight.
Did I tell you about the boots I found for my 9 yo daughter. I found her a brand new 351 and a brand new featherweight. She is set for the next 2 - 3 years with brand new oberhamer boots to skate in.

[chuckboucher]

Chuck I agree with you that was also my fav. I pulled the heel off of it though. I have asked him to make me a 641 without the extra straps. That should be very similar to the original featherweight.
Did I tell you about the boots I found for my 9 yo daughter. I found her a brand new 351 and a brand new featherweight. She is set for the next 2 - 3 years with brand new oberhamer boots to skate in.That's a good find! I was never a fan of the 351. I always thought it was ugly, with the lace routing that it had.

As for the Featherweight, I actually pulled the heel off of mine as well. I have flatter feet, so that made the boot much more comfortable.

I also had a pair of Oberhamer 61BR (I think that was the model) that I did the same to.

[Chkultr]

www.lowpriceskates.com claims to have NEW old school oberhamer boots! They are cheap in price! A size 12 is $130.00 just for the boots!

I loved those boots! I still have my size 6 in white! I put a lot of miles on those boots!!!! I'm not in need of a new boot, but thought about buying it just to have it in my size!!!!!

This is the e mail sent back to me after I questioned the boot...............

The Oberhamer boots on the site - are the boots from back in the day - but I don't think the tongue's are really that thick, yes they do have padding though.

Thanks

Low Price Skates

Has your friend got any in production?

Josh

[ncsk8rgirl]

I don't see them anywhere on the site:(

[chuckboucher]

I don't see them anywhere on the site:(I didn't as well. Are you talking about speed or art Oberhamer boots?

[Chkultr]

They had the speed boots in the white and black in different sizes...Try this out.......http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lowpriceskates.com/ProductImages/sdd2/thumb_1570.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.lowpriceskates.com/browseproducts/Index26.html&h=82&w=110&sz=3&hl=en&start=7&tbnid=DWI6BYQ13VZtBM:&tbnh=63&tbnw=85&prev=/images%3Fq%3Doberhamer%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN


Hope that works... I went to google and typed in oberhamer and clicked on image. That gave me the picture with the web site and you can search through all the skates!

josh

[chuckboucher]

They had the speed boots in the white and black in different sizes...Try this out.......http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lowpriceskates.com/ProductImages/sdd2/thumb_1570.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.lowpriceskates.com/browseproducts/Index26.html&h=82&w=110&sz=3&hl=en&start=7&tbnid=DWI6BYQ13VZtBM:&tbnh=63&tbnw=85&prev=/images%3Fq%3Doberhamer%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN


Hope that works... I went to google and typed in oberhamer and clicked on image. That gave me the picture with the web site and you can search through all the skates!

joshTOo bad I'm not a size 12. Those are the Oberhamer 351.

[ncsk8rgirl]

no doubt! that is what I am looking for.. a white 351

Oh Well... maybe one day:D

[ncsk8rgirl]

I just called LPS & they have a 4 1/2 but no 12 .. just thought I would let you guys know.

[Chkultr]

ncsk8rgirl,
That sucks! The only size they have is the 4 1/2? I had absolutely nothing else to do the other day and looked through all the pages LPS had and saw quite a few sizes in different colors. Well the white and black!

Keep one em I guess!

Josh
ps didn't:( mean to get you all worked up to be disapointed

[xlracer]

Okay everybody here is the deal with LPS and the Oberhamers. Luther has an old buddy that has lots of stuff from back in the day. He has a few of the 351's but they are all small people sizes. I think the biggest thing he has is a size 5. I am still keeping in touch with my guy down in GA. He is still pushing forward with his plans to recreate these boots. He has had some set backs with getting all of the patterns completed, but he assures me that he is determined to make this happen. I email him once a month to check on his progress. Like the rest of you I am very anxious to see if he can pull this off.
I have told him time and time again that if he can make them people will buy them as fast as he can make em.

[chuckboucher]

Okay everybody here is the deal with LPS and the Oberhamers. Luther has an old buddy that has lots of stuff from back in the day. He has a few of the 351's but they are all small people sizes. I think the biggest thing he has is a size 5. I am still keeping in touch with my guy down in GA. He is still pushing forward with his plans to recreate these boots. He has had some set backs with getting all of the patterns completed, but he assures me that he is determined to make this happen. I email him once a month to check on his progress. Like the rest of you I am very anxious to see if he can pull this off.
I have told him time and time again that if he can make them people will buy them as fast as he can make em.I'll bet they'd be beating down his door, since the 351 was such a popular boot. Like I've said in the past, I wasn't a huge fan of them, but Oberhamer did make a great boot.

[xlracer]

Hey Chuck Im gonna hijack this thread for a second but I have to tell ya. I finally found my XL plate...well close enough. I found an Ultimate SST with out the toestop. Its titanium so it actually lighter and stronger than the xl. I plan to mount my 595 on it and I have some brand new american made Cannibals to put on it. Now I can retire and spend my days as the oldest rink rat in Nashville.
Hey Doc....thanks again.....you ROCK!!!!!!

[ncsk8rgirl]

Hey Chuck Im gonna hijack this thread for a second but I have to tell ya. I finally found my XL plate...well close enough. I found an Ultimate SST with out the toestop. Its titanium so it actually lighter and stronger than the xl. I plan to mount my 595 on it and I have some brand new american made Cannibals to put on it. Now I can retire and spend my days as the oldest rink rat in Nashville.
Hey Doc....thanks again.....you ROCK!!!!!!

ok now. no one is allowed to get their dream set up until I get a white 7.5 oberhamer 351!! :tongue:

[whatever36]

I agree these boots are awesome I bought mine in 1980 and still skate with them I have the black diamond plate. I had a major house fire in 1990 and my skates were in it the only thing that got damaged is my old fanjet wheels melted:( . The rink I work at has a pair of white obies they rent out for speedskates I couldnt believe it

[chuckboucher]

I agree these boots are awesome I bought mine in 1980 and still skate with them I have the black diamond plate. I had a major house fire in 1990 and my skates were in it the only thing that got damaged is my old fanjet wheels melted:( . The rink I work at has a pair of white obies they rent out for speedskates I couldnt believe itWow, you have Black Doamond plates that didn't break? These things were synonymous with breaking. Every single person I knew that bought them ended up replacing them.

I, myself, never liked the look of the 351. I didn't see the use for the 2nd set of laces. As for Oberhamer, I had 3 other pairs, a Featherlight, an XL-35 (you'd probably remember these, extremely low cut with the 2" wide white stripe with the flying "O" in gold), and 61BR (my first speed boot).

I miss Oberhamer. They made better boots at that time than Riedell did, IMO.

[ncsk8rgirl]

I agree these boots are awesome I bought mine in 1980 and still skate with them I have the black diamond plate. I had a major house fire in 1990 and my skates were in it the only thing that got damaged is my old fanjet wheels melted:( . The rink I work at has a pair of white obies they rent out for speedskates I couldnt believe it

:eek: used as a Rental??? What size are they??? (and what rink do you go to???? :biggrin:)

[brikkee]

I agree these boots are awesome I bought mine in 1980 and still skate with them I have the black diamond plate. I had a major house fire in 1990 and my skates were in it the only thing that got damaged is my old fanjet wheels melted:( . The rink I work at has a pair of white obies they rent out for speedskates I couldnt believe it

i hated these boot sorry guys.but yes they where very light. my wife loves them and still asks if i found any. i had the on a lazer when i was a kid and felt like there was no arch souport in them :mad:

[ncsk8rgirl]

Man.. Me & the hubby braved the Sat night (spring break, even) session last night since the rink was going to be closed tonight and we would not be able to skate our normal Sun night session.

I'm sitting at the snack bar & I see a blaze of something white that caught my eye.. Right before me is a 11 or 12 year old kid wearing his mothers white oberhamer 351's. They looked pristine! He let me look at the skates and then he was off.

I was forced to endure the torture of watching the kid beat the toes of the boot on the kick plate at the snack bar, the video games, the walls.... I was suffering the entire night! (Did I mention they were MY size?) At one point he was slinging the skates across the floor. I was sick..

I told my hubby that we would now camp out at the rink at closing time on Fri & Sat nights trying to find this kids mother so I can "Rescue" the skates. Hubby asked me if I was going to open a Rescue Group for O's.. lol

[intgra2ner]

I'm still working on those 351s for you bethany. The girl drives a semi-truck, so its hard to catch her when she's home. I still want your pro-lines, so we WILL make a deal when I have them in my posession.

[brikkee]

this boot sucked a** had no arch suport i hated it. left turn yeah when u fell to the ground j/k you can all say what you like but turns where so hard due to no suport even with a lazer plate.thats just my 2 cents.

[ncsk8rgirl]

this boot sucked a** had no arch suport i hated it. left turn yeah when u fell to the ground j/k you can all say what you like but turns where so hard due to no suport even with a lazer plate.thats just my 2 cents.

lol.. I love the boot!!! I never had any problems with the ones I've owned. They are soooooooo comfortable to me.

Do you have high arches/flat fee brikkee?

[ncsk8rgirl]

I'm still working on those 351s for you bethany. The girl drives a semi-truck, so its hard to catch her when she's home. I still want your pro-lines, so we WILL make a deal when I have them in my posession.


Do I need to put out an APB on her Rig? I'll call the FBI, Homeland Security, ATF, Wackenhut security, etc if it means I can get me some 351's LOL :D

[intgra2ner]

Do I need to put out an APB on her Rig? I'll call the FBI, Homeland Security, ATF, Wackenhut security, etc if it means I can get me some 351's LOL :D

Naaa... she's around... I need to get ahold of her more than just the skates... She has to get her bridesmaid dress for my wedding taken to get altered. Wedding stress is starting to set in...grrrrr

But I have my Disney honeymoon all squared away & Skating plans in Orlando are already happening... yay!!!

[ncsk8rgirl]

Naaa... she's around... I need to get ahold of her more than just the skates... She has to get her bridesmaid dress for my wedding taken to get altered. Wedding stress is starting to set in...grrrrr

But I have my Disney honeymoon all squared away & Skating plans in Orlando are already happening... yay!!!


Ahhhh... Got ya! Congrats. I didn't know you were getting married:D

[brikkee]

lol.. I love the boot!!! I never had any problems with the ones I've owned. They are soooooooo comfortable to me.

Do you have high arches/flat fee brikkee?

i have flat feet maybe that why lol

[intgra2ner]

I want a size 8 641 any color.. I'm prolly going to get a few pairs of small 641s for my kids to wear when they are growing up

[xlracer]

Funny you should bring this thread up again. I emailed my guy today to ask how his project is progressing. I do know of two sources that have some small 351 and 641 models.

[intgra2ner]

one of those wouldn't be the person selling a large cache of o's on ebay right now would it?

[xlracer]

I dont know I will go to ebay and check it out and let you know.

[xlracer]

NO!!!! This is some one I do not know. But I am for sure gonna buy one of those feather weights.

[intgra2ner]

Makes you wonder where these boots have been all these years. I'm guessing someone bought a rink and found these on a shelf somewhere.

[xlracer]

I am sure that youre right on with that theory. I cannot believe all of those boxes in the picture. My guys are down in GA and TX but they also only have small sizes. The guy in GA if trying to get patterns made to reproduce the 641 and 351 models. He has has some problems but still seems determined to make them. But if you have kids these are the bomb for them so get some.
I alreay have a 2 and a 3 for my youngest so I guess I will get her a 4 from this guy on ebay.

[chuckboucher]

one of those wouldn't be the person selling a large cache of o's on ebay right now would it?That seller is a new eBay seller. Only has 2 for a feedback. I'll wait.

[splitwoods]

I am sure that youre right on with that theory. I cannot believe all of those boxes in the picture. My guys are down in GA and TX but they also only have small sizes. The guy in GA if trying to get patterns made to reproduce the 641 and 351 models. He has has some problems but still seems determined to make them. But if you have kids these are the bomb for them so get some.
I alreay have a 2 and a 3 for my youngest so I guess I will get her a 4 from this guy on ebay.


Tracy:

Do you have the URL to go to Ebay to look at the pics you are speaking about of the Oberhammers?

Splitwoods

[ncsk8rgirl]

Here it is!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Oberhamer-641-Skate-Boots-in-the-box_W0QQitemZ230123407255QQihZ013QQcategoryZ71155QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[ncsk8rgirl]

Hey XLRACER - are these from your boot man? They are listed by the same people but described as oberhamer "like" boots and are clearly not original 351's
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Speed-Skate-Boots-Oberhamer-351-Style_W0QQitemZ230124985066QQihZ013QQcategoryZ71155QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[xlracer]

They could be but the last time we talked he was not making any yet. He had some of these same boots and told me that they had been produced in South America. He also had a case of these. They were stamped a size 9 but looked more like a 10 or 11. I would ask for the length of the boot before buying one of these. Also they are not made from the same buttery soft leather that all Oberhamers were made from. Its not going to be the same.

[ncsk8rgirl]

its OK.. I will be getting my very own set of 351's very shortly so I don't need a knockoff!

[splitwoods]

Tracy:

Up till about 73, all the Oberhamer 61BRS were made from Kangaroo leather exclusively. Then when the Australian Govt put them on the endangered species list, the hides stopped coming into the country, so Roy switched over to a very supple cowhide, nicknamed "Kangocow".

Just a little history lesson....

Curious who is the guy in Jersey selling them, anyone know??

Splitwoods

[xlracer]

Really weird thing with that ebay deal. They have that picture with all of those boxes but they will not tell you exactly what they have. Everyone that has asked about them gets the reply sorry I dont have that size. I emailed them and ask for a list of models and sizes but they have not responded.
If they dont give up any info, there arent gonna sell one pair.
The seller is new on ebay so just like Chuck, I kinda leary. I would really like to by the old school size 4 for Shelby so Im holding off for now.

[splitwoods]

Tracy:

I have never purchased anything off of EBay. I know many who have and not had a problem, and some that wish they did not. I guess the only way to conservatively go about it is to check out references. The price seems fishy, and if it starts to smell like a fish, it may very well be one!

Splitwoods

[ncsk8rgirl]

One response that I got was "I don't have that size in THIS shipment but I will keep you in mind and let you know".. Since when do you gets shipments of O's?

[xlracer]

Okay, I am still really unsure about this person in NJ. One of the pictures shows several boxes but I have asked for an inventory and they will not respond. Make me wonder what they have. As far as those white replicas go, my friend in GA has some also and we have looked at them very close. Its not a bad boot but is is no where near an Oberhamer. The leather is extremely stiff. I didnt like it.
Now onto an update from GA. Shay sent me a note today telling me that all of the patterns and molds are finally complete and the machinery needed to make the boots has been purchased he said that he can finally see a start up of making these boots in the next few weeks. Again, he has promised to send one to me as soon as they are done so I can skate on it and give him some feed back. If they are quality product and he can take orders. I will send out the news to everyone that is interested and have everyone email me sizes and addresses and I will forward it to him and he can contact each of you to arrange making your boots for you.

[ncsk8rgirl]

Thanks for the update! Just keep repeating "soft leather, soft leather, soft leather" and all will be right in the world:)

[xlracer]

Can I get an AMEN from the congregation!
His whole motivation behind making these boots is the fact that you cant get anything that is so soft and comfortable right out of the box. So I hope he has been able to find a supplier that can provide leather that will satisfy all of us.

[xlracer]

Granted, I dont skate everyday but my 595's are almost 4 years old and are just really getting nice and soft.

[ncsk8rgirl]

the white leather being sent out by Riedell is HORRIBLE. If he can make a soft white boot, I will be first in line to buy a pair :D

[splitwoods]

Tracy:

I have been doing business with some of the finest custom saddle makers in the country for over 25 years. Trust me when I tell you the hides are out there, all one has to do is be willing to pay for quality raw material, or know where to go for it!

If he is using less than acceptable hides, anyone that is, not just him, for example the Reidell boots just mentioned, then they are buying low grade leather, and selling it for hi grade prices.....that will only last so long before the boots are personanongrata!

Ill say this about Roy, he was diligent, persistant and would not ship a boot unless it passed his qualty control standards, that is why we loved his merchandise, we could stand behind every shipment, 100% satisfaction guaranteed....it was a pleasure to represent Oberhamer....he was a class act!

Splitwoods

[brikkee]

my 295 are 13 years old and still ticking:D

[ncsk8rgirl]

I have older riedell boots that have the some of the best leather ever.. The new leather is what I am complaining about. And why is it that the custom dyed leather is so soft, the black is ok at best, but the white is stiff as a board? I could complain all night about the new leather!!

[chuckboucher]

IMO, The best leather used on quads was back in the early 80's when they used kangaroo on some of the Oberhamers. (I'm not sure if Riedell ever used kangaroo)

My 61BR boots were awesome.

[ncsk8rgirl]

I agree.. which is why I said the riedell leather was SOME of the best.. not THE best :D Nothing beats the leather of an O.

[xlracer]

Chuck, I had a Reidell that was kangaroo back in the late 70's it was used.
I wore it out and then made the switch over to Obehamer in 76. That Reidell was very soft and very comfortable.

[rwsz]

Chuck, I had a Reidell that was kangaroo back in the late 70's it was used.
I wore it out and then made the switch over to Obehamer in 76. That Reidell was very soft and very comfortable.

yes about 7 or 8 years ago riedell stopped using the top leather because of cost and they have kept it that way. even the shin and finish of the leather is different now. i think the other more expensive boots that are custom by sp teri, harwick, etc use the better leather

[Ecarrothers]

Actually, I purchased 2 of the 351 boots off of e-bay from that guy with all of the boots. I have had fairly good luck with e-bay in the past, so I decided to try it.

The first one came in today. As far as I can tell it is the real deal. I do own 2 other Oberhamer boots I picked up back in the late 80's. It has all the appropriate markings- the oberhamer stamp on the bottom, the made in usa stamp on the bottom. The oberhamer symbol is in the correct spot and there is even similar writing on the inside as my other boots. The leather feels like the other leather I have (just not as worn).

Erica

[ncsk8rgirl]

Did you buy the actual 351's or the 351 STYLE boots? I don't doubt the authenticity of the ones marked 351.. it is the 351 STYLE boots that we are concerned with.

[brikkee]

I'm was never a big fan of soft leather so i never like oberhamers :confused:
i dont see no problems with leather on my riedells and there around 15-20 yo and the leathers still good the sole could uses some work :D

[ncsk8rgirl]

I love the leather on the older riedells.. The new leather is what sucks!

[Ecarrothers]

The first one that came in was the 351 boot. The 2nd one will be the 351 style. I should recieve that today or tomorrow. I will keep you posted as to how that one is in comparison.

Erica

[xlracer]

FYI. I got an email yesterday. The first prototype is complete and my guy is thrilled with the results. Said he will be sending me a boot very soon. If this is what I am hoping for, I will pass on all of the info to everyone so they can place an order. Just remember to tell him that I sent you to him.
Hey Erica were those Oberhamers on ebay the real deal?

[bazzman]

Hey xlracer please post some pics for us of those boots when you get them!

[xlracer]

Dont worry. As soon as I get pics of the boots or my pair, I will be posting them.

[splitwoods]

Dont worry. As soon as I get pics of the boots or my pair, I will be posting them.


Tracy:

Can you secure a pic of this prototype boot and post it here so we can look at it? When do you expect to have your sample pair??

Splitwoods

[xlracer]

OK, here they are. Remember this was the first one made. He is still working on them and says he hopes to be taking orders soon.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/boots5.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/boots4.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/boots1.jpg

He says he will be doing custom colors also. Not just Black or White.

[ncsk8rgirl]

man... that is one nice set of boots. :D:D

[chuckboucher]

I like the fact that they don't have the ugly loop and extra laces that the original 351s had.

[xlracer]

Hey Chuck he says that will be an option. He will make it with or without the
tie-down loops.

[ncsk8rgirl]

oh good!
Call me a freak but I like the loops :D

Any ideas on what custom colors he will offer? how soft is the leather?

[Kennedy]

All I have to say is WOW!!!!!! I just might have to buy a pair. i am already day dreaming about what color I would want.

[xlracer]

He has mentioned Red, Blue, Black, White and Pink and also talked about doing combinations. Pink and Black, Red White and Blue and so on.
I should receive a pair in the next month to mount, skate on and provide feedback on what I like and dont like. I am thrilled to know that I will be getting one of the first pairs and that he has trusted me with giving my opinion of the boot. It may take a little more time before he has the manufacturing process down but he is determined to create a quality product.
I would imagine that anycolor will be possible. It all depends on his leather supplier.

[ncsk8rgirl]

Ohh, OOOH, OOH, OOH.. Me first ,me first! (well, after you of course :D)

[murder]

I remember back in say 1994, at joe cotters rink back when he was in tulsa, ok (wheels in motion) they had a big quantity of Oberhamers going for about $60 dollars a pair. When I tried a pair on the insole was burning my foot. Has anyone else come across this problem?

[ncsk8rgirl]

I remember back in say 1994, at joe cotters rink back when he was in tulsa, ok (wheels in motion) they had a big quantity of Oberhamers going for about $60 dollars a pair. When I tried a pair on the insole was burning my foot. Has anyone else come across this problem?

I have a set of 351 O's but I do not have any problems with the insole burning my feet. I did not get mine from there. I heard that there were some fake O's (that were made in S. America) circulating around TX & OK. Those might have been some of those. :frown:

[murder]

I have a set of 351 O's but I do not have any problems with the insole burning my feet. I did not get mine from there. I heard that there were some fake O's (that were made in S. America) circulating around TX & OK. Those might have been some of those. :frown:
maybe so, they were a little more narrow compared to the common pair. and they just heated up my feet like crazy..

[ThommyBoy]

How soft is the leather on that first prorotype?

Also any ides on price yet? $200, $300?

I sill run my 1983 351 black Kanga's with straps but they are 1/2 a size tight at 11 1/2, and I can only run a thin sock so a few new sized 12 pairs will be in order when he is ready.

Does he know how busy he will be making us all our dream boots?


Cheers, THOM

[xlracer]

His vision is to recreate them as close to the originals as possible.
That includes using the softest leathers he can find. I am hoping that his supplier has been able to give him what he wants. I have also learned recently that the Kangaroo leather market is open again. Who knows maybe he will eventually import the real deal for making these boots.

[ThommyBoy]

NICE!

Do you think a sign up would speed things up for him knowing he has orders ready to go?

[ncsk8rgirl]

SIGNUP SHEET

PAIRS 1-5 Bethany (NCSK8RGIRL) :D

[ncsk8rgirl]

as much as that looks like a joke, it's not.. I want at least 3 pairs

[xlracer]

LOL! Girrrlll you are crazy!
But I know exactly what you mean. I dont have one at all but I found some last year in small sizes and bought two pairs for my youngest daughter.
She has a size 2 351 and a size 3 Featherweight that she can grow into.
I have DrSk8 looking for the perfect plate for my boot. I would love to put an
Ultimate I or Ultimate II on this new boot when it arrives. I have some brand new Shaman's that have not been opened waiting for this to all come together.

[ncsk8rgirl]

an.. I love those little sz2 351's... My daughter is still growing in to her sz 9 riedell 122's. When she grows out of them you know who to call.

PLEASE tell me that the shamans are not green :rolleyes: I will sooooo need to come jack your house up if they are!

Dr Sk8 can find what you need.. it may take him a while, but he will do it. What size are you looking for? I will keep my eyes open for you.

I have an original 351 that is like brand new. I have been terified to skate in it for fear of not being able to get another pair. They are black and I really really really want a white pair. If I can get the repro in colors too.. well, I will be one happy sk8rgirl!!

[bazzman]

yep he had better get ready for a hurricane of orders because i too want a pair..thats if they are made of the nice soft kango-leather of yesteryear...and i dont need another pair of boots..but if they are an exact "O" replica im in it to win it!LOL

[ncsk8rgirl]

yep he had better get ready for a hurricane of orders because i too want a pair..thats if they are made of the nice soft kango-leather of yesteryear...and i dont need another pair of boots..but if they are an exact "O" replica im in it to win it!LOL

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:


yep he better be ready!

[xlracer]

I keep telling him he better be ready for an overwhelming rush when he is ready to take the first orders. I will ask him today how he wants to move forward with this. I may have all of you go ahead and I may start a pre order list for him so he knows just what to expect. I know if I am satisfied with my boot when it comes, you will all be happy campers.
If you want to send me email with details I will go ahead and put together a list for him.

[bazzman]

is there a price point established yet?

[xlracer]

I will ask but I remeber he said he wanted to keep it under $250.00. I dont know if this includes custom colors. I will ask tonight.

[bazzman]

i cant remember if you mentioned this before but did this person obtain some of the original tooling and machinery from the oberhamer plant to produce these boots?...did he have to get certain permission also?....man if he had to start from scratch i bet he has a small fortune tied up in these!

[ncsk8rgirl]

I keep telling him he better be ready for an overwhelming rush when he is ready to take the first orders. I will ask him today how he wants to move forward with this. I may have all of you go ahead and I may start a pre order list for him so he knows just what to expect. I know if I am satisfied with my boot when it comes, you will all be happy campers.
If you want to send me email with details I will go ahead and put together a list for him.


<---FIRST ON PRE-ORDER LIST :D

[xlracer]

Here is the story as I know it to date. He has a partner that is a boot maker.
This guy already has the needed machinery to make the boots. He has an upolstry business and has heavy duty sewing machines. They aquired absoultly nothing from Oberhamer. I was told that he looked into the possibility but Riedell bought everything and destroyed all of the patterns to kill the competition. These guys found as many Oberhamers that they could get there hands on and dismantled them. They used that as a starting point and worked with a third party who used the parts to create all of the patterns to make the boots. They also had to go to another party to have the last made. That has all been done. They also spend alot of time with a lawer to make sure they were not going to be sued after the fact for making these boots. The lawer has done the research and given them the green light to go ahead. So that is where we are. The have taken the high road to make this product. I am sure they could have gone to China and been cranking these boots out last year but I believe my man is in this for life and sees himself being just like old Roy Oberhamer, 30 years from now still making these boots by hand. I wish him all the best and cant wait to get my boot.
The local speed team is traveling down to Cedartown on the 22nd and I hope to get my boots on that trip.
You can send me an email with your info to thburdeshaw@nctc.com
and I will pass this along to give him an idea of how many he needs to crank out in the next few months.

[ncsk8rgirl]

I emailed ya!!

[merlin]

Just a quick comment on keeping the cost down:

Don't use metal eyelets all the way down the boot.

Only the top 2-3 "rows" of holes need eyelets, because that's where all the stress of pulling the laces tight is. Also, eyelets all-the-way looks ugly.

Granted, eyelets are probably only a buck each, but when you only have to fit six instead of twenty, there's both a labour (time) and cost ($14?) saving to be had.

[CARTchamp]

I had an Oberhamer for about 6 months way back in the day. It never felt right to me, I think it was because it did not lace all the way down to the tip of my toe's like i was used to.

[splitwoods]

I had an Oberhamer for about 6 months way back in the day. It never felt right to me, I think it was because it did not lace all the way down to the tip of my toe's like i was used to.

I believe that is the 61BR Oberhamer to which you reference.

Splitwoods

[bazzman]

Hey splitwoods, speaking of oberhamer boots...any new word on that repro boot from your source?

[rsfaze]

its been almost a month since the last update. Anything new?!!?!!?

[splitwoods]

Hey splitwoods, speaking of oberhamer boots...any new word on that repro boot from your source?

It is not "My source", you should address your question to XL Racer, he knows how to contact the manufacturer ,,,read the entire thread and you will know the background of the repros.....

Splitwoods

[bazzman]

oops!..i knew that...i meant XLracer...sorry about that splitwoods!...anyway XLracer the question still stands!?

[xlracer]

I will give him a shout out over the weekend to find out what is going on.
I am trying to be patient with him. This is a learning process for him to get to were he is.

[rsfaze]

anything new?

[xlracer]

He is working out some quality control issues. Trust me I am just as anxious as the rest of you. As of last week, he has started on my boot. He said he will ship it if he is satisfied with it.

[ncsk8rgirl]

I truly appreciate his attention to detail. I am waiting with baited breath :D

[Gle8]

2 questions:

1) so when can I order a pair? *grin*

2) anyone heard from docsk8? I've been emailing him for 2 months with no response.

Thanks!

[ncsk8rgirl]

Check your Junk mail or bulk mail folder... Sometimes go in there? The last time I emailed him I thought I didn't get a response until I was clearing out my junk mail folder and saw then there:rolleyes:



2) anyone heard from docsk8? I've been emailing him for 2 months with no response.

Thanks!

[Kennedy]

Any update on these???? I am seriously thinking about getting a pair of speed quads together. An Obie replica would be a perfect boot.

[Gle8]

what's the word?

[ncsk8rgirl]

I know... I am dying :D ok, maybe that is a bit drastic... I'm frettin'!!!

[bazzman]

xlracer where are you!!??...:rolleyes:

[xlracer]

I will send him an email and try to get something firm from him on what is happening.

[xlracer]

Okay everybody this is a quote from an email I just read myself.

"2008 is going to be the year, come hell or high water. I have been out of town working for the better part of November and December. My boss has promised me that I will not be on the road as much this year. My partner has been working while I have been away, but I am getting back in the shop this week and we are setting some major deadlines for the next few months. One of those deadlines is your boots and another is I am hiring someone to work with my partner if I am out of town to help keep things moving, to help speed up the process. I promise they are going to be done soon, so please don't give up on me. While I was out of town working, I did come up with some new ideas for boots. So, 2008 is the year. I have stocked up on leather and material to make the boots so that I can keep up with demand once they start selling."

That is the latest news I have. All we can do is pray this happens for all of us. If he pulls it off.....OBOY!:biggrin:

[ncsk8rgirl]

tell him to hire me.. I'll keep em working!!!

[bazzman]

i just hope he bought the nice soft kango-cow leather!!:rolleyes:..hey xlracer who will we order these boots through you or will he make up a website to order these through???...it would be cool if Kathie would set something up so we could order them on this website somehow!

[brystef]

I would love a pair of these also. I have my old white 353's and they just dont fit. My daughter is 4 and learning to skate. I need a new pair to skate with her! I have an old ad from Skate magazine fall of 83 introducing the 351 and 353. If anyone is interested email me I will scan in and send to you! Keep us informed on the boot!:biggrin:
Stefanie

[ncsk8rgirl]

Wanna Sell Those 353's???:d

[rwsz]

Wanna Sell Those 353's???:d


another one,,,lmao you do have seds lol.

[ncsk8rgirl]

another one,,,lmao you do have seds lol.

The 353 is My personal holy grail. I had one growing up and wore it slap out. (The toes were held together by duct tape) I would literally give up a lions share of my collection for a new old stock 353 (whte boot) that was my size.

[rwsz]

The 353 is My personal holy grail. I had one growing up and wore it slap out. (The toes were held together by duct tape) I would literally give up a lions share of my collection for a new old stock 353 (whte boot) that was my size.


wow what is the size of the one she has, its used isnt it? good luck getting it.

[brystef]

Sorry, I cant part with them yet. I love them still! I got them new in the early 80's (I was around 11) so I think it was 82. I was a speed skater and wore them to regionals in Fl the to nationals in TX so they still have a lot of sentimental value! I still have the satelite plate and red labada wheels on them.....very old school! I will let you know if I ever can part with them!

[brystef]

Watch ebay there is someone selling 351s and 353s on there. Its the boot only!

[ncsk8rgirl]

Watch ebay there is someone selling 351s and 353s on there. Its the boot only!

they are replicas & not the real deal.. in my size anyways... Believe me. I watch!

[rwsz]

they are replicas & not the real deal.. in my size anyways... Believe me. I watch!


believe her nothing gets by this lady :rolleyes:

[A-Town Sk8er]

Okay everybody this is a quote from an email I just read myself.

"2008 is going to be the year, come hell or high water. I have been out of town working for the better part of November and December. My boss has promised me that I will not be on the road as much this year. My partner has been working while I have been away, but I am getting back in the shop this week and we are setting some major deadlines for the next few months. One of those deadlines is your boots and another is I am hiring someone to work with my partner if I am out of town to help keep things moving, to help speed up the process. I promise they are going to be done soon, so please don't give up on me. While I was out of town working, I did come up with some new ideas for boots. So, 2008 is the year. I have stocked up on leather and material to make the boots so that I can keep up with demand once they start selling."

That is the latest news I have. All we can do is pray this happens for all of us. If he pulls it off.....OBOY!:biggrin:

I hope he plans on making a 13 :redface:

[73watermutt]

yeah, no kidding

[sk8rmom]

And in case I haven't mentioned it...he needs to make very small sizes too.

At least down to a 3 :D

[dvw]

yeah, no kidding

Word. I'm in for a set.

[brystef]

lowpriceskates.com has a couple of oberhamers. Dont know if they are real or not.:)

[ncsk8rgirl]

lowpriceskates.com has a couple of oberhamers. Dont know if they are real or not.:)

not in my size :(

[xlracer]

If you found that through google it is really old. Luther sold all he had real quick. I bought one for my daughter. Everybody hang in there. Maybe I can show mine off at Quad Nationals.

[brystef]

nevermind.....they are from a few years back.....sorry:frown:

[mmogilinski]

I saw this thread of folks talking about oberhamer speed skating boots. I have a pair I am going to post on ebay in about a week and will have pics available. From the description I have read in this thread, it sounds like they are the featherlite model. They are black with the padded foam tongue and are ankle high like the riedell 595 boot. They have the oberhamer logo on the sides of the boots with 2 metal rings down each side for lasing. I have owned them since about 1985 and now only use them once every few years. The boots are in good condition. they have laser slider plates with brand new(never skated on) Bullet Quad speed wheels and bearings. I can be reached at mmogilinski@hotmail.com if interested.
Thanks!

[mmogilinski]

I just looked back in this thread and saw the pics of the knock off oberhamer white boots. The boots I have are the same boot but in black with the oberhammer logo on side as well as the metal rings for lacing down the both sides of the boot.
-Mike

[roller_dudette]

I just looked back in this thread and saw the pics of the knock off oberhamer white boots. The boots I have are the same boot but in black with the oberhammer logo on side as well as the metal rings for lacing down the both sides of the boot.
-Mike


What size?

[rwsz]

I saw this thread of folks talking about oberhamer speed skating boots. I have a pair I am going to post on ebay in about a week and will have pics available. From the description I have read in this thread, it sounds like they are the featherlite model. They are black with the padded foam tongue and are ankle high like the riedell 595 boot. They have the oberhamer logo on the sides of the boots with 2 metal rings down each side for lasing. I have owned them since about 1985 and now only use them once every few years. The boots are in good condition. they have laser slider plates with brand new(never skated on) Bullet Quad speed wheels and bearings. I can be reached at mmogilinski@hotmail.com if interested.
Thanks!


try to sell them on the forum here first under items for sale. lots of people will be interested in them for sure.

[mmogilinski]

sorry I didnt mention they were size 10.

[roller_dudette]

OK, good I'm broke and those arent my size. I want a set of Os really bad! :D

[Live2sk888]

I just looked back in this thread and saw the pics of the knock off oberhamer white boots. The boots I have are the same boot but in black with the oberhammer logo on side as well as the metal rings for lacing down the both sides of the boot.
-Mike

They sound like 351s. In most people's opinion, that's the best one to have. If they were my size I'd be emailing you already! :)

[giarc25]

I could probably get into those :) I think the O's I have are 11's, I am not certain though...

[ncsk8rgirl]

They sound like 351s. In most people's opinion, that's the best one to have. If they were my size I'd be emailing you already! :)

+1!

[mmogilinski]

The boots measure 11.5" from outside tip to tip. My foot is 11" long and they fit me exact with my toe touching front of boot with no extra room. I Hope that helps. There was no markings inside the boot so I guessed at size 10 since they were tight on my foot which I normally wear an 11. they are probably more like a 10.5 but those of you out there that know boots may be able to confirm size from the measurements i just provided?
-Mike

[mmogilinski]

Here is the link to the Oberhamer speed skates.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Oberhamer-quad-speed-skates-w-laser-plates-Men-Size10_W0QQitemZ120223002937QQihZ002QQcategoryZ71155QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I have the high resolution photos if anyone is interested just let me know I can email you those.

Thanks
-Mike

[giarc25]

thanks for the link...let the bidding begin :o

[gospeedracer]

Any "new" news on these????

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

xlracer wrote:"OK, here they are. Remember this was the first one made. He is still working on them and says he hopes to be taking orders soon".

[susanmcp]

I ran into someone from his rink this weekend and it appears that he is just spreading himself too thin right now. He said he has the very best of intentions but just cant get it all done along with his job and family life. This guy saw the boot he has made so far and it still needs some work, so he is not ready for any production right now, and not any in the foreseeable future.

[xlracer]

Hey Susan, I got an email this a.m. when I got to work. He says my boots should be fininshed by the Boro NTF meet. I agree its hard to make that leap of faith and go full time with the dream. I will hold out to see what happens.

[brystef]

I'd give anything if the ones on ebay would come close to fitting me! Come on w/the new ones!

[xlracer]

brystef where do you skate in Louisville?

[brystef]

I take my daughter to Skate-O-Rama in Bullitt county. They have a morning skate for 12 and under....perfect for her (she's 4). We are heading there right now!! When I was on the race team (many yrs ago) I skated for Highview.

[kimmie]

I'd give anything for the 353s in your avatar. Drool.............:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[brystef]

I'd give anything for them to fit me good again! I have had many great times in these old things....the only bone I ever broke was in these skates at nationals!! Very sentimental!:smile:

[markthetrucker]

Wow, you have Black Doamond plates that didn't break? These things were synonymous with breaking. Every single person I knew that bought them ended up replacing them.

I, myself, never liked the look of the 351. I didn't see the use for the 2nd set of laces. As for Oberhamer, I had 3 other pairs, a Featherlight, an XL-35 (you'd probably remember these, extremely low cut with the 2" wide white stripe with the flying "O" in gold), and 61BR (my first speed boot).

I miss Oberhamer. They made better boots at that time than Riedell did, IMO.

I keep reading on here that Black Diamond plates had a breakage problem??? thats really news to me I raced on em suckers for...what 3-4 years and Never had a problem with them. I even passed them down to another speeder on my team and I haven't gotten served any papers as of yet and that was ooooh 17-18 years ago! Maybe I just got a good lucky pair!:D

[Kennedy]

One thing I have learned here is that someone has had problems with almost every piece of equipment ever made. You kind of have to take it with a grain of salt.

[markthetrucker]

I suppose your right about that. I wouldn't mind getting a pair of those new O's myself though! I am in need of a big boy boot that fits! haha custom order size 14 please! lol:D

[quadbob]

hey i've been on a diamond for oh about 20 years. got it in 88 so thats about right i'm 6.2 and 225 never ever had a problem. but i'm a speed skater not a jumper fool arounder. although they did make 2 versions of the diamond the first version didn't have the metal toe stop and truck inserts and i did see people strip them out like satelites and lasers. good plates. i went from an ultimate 1 to the diamond because i wanted more flex, because my feet hurt all the time. the magnesium in the ultimates was extremely stiff. i do know if the diamonds were not on a good quality boot that had really stiff sole. then they were way to flexable. maybe thats why so many people had problems. all i know is me and my relay partner skated many a nationals on them, know problems. in fact they were just skated on last week at practice.
quadbob.

[markthetrucker]

hey i've been on a diamond for oh about 20 years. got it in 88 so thats about right i'm 6.2 and 225 never ever had a problem. but i'm a speed skater not a jumper fool arounder. although they did make 2 versions of the diamond the first version didn't have the metal toe stop and truck inserts and i did see people strip them out like satelites and lasers. good plates. i went from an ultimate 1 to the diamond because i wanted more flex, because my feet hurt all the time. the magnesium in the ultimates was extremely stiff. i do know if the diamonds were not on a good quality boot that had really stiff sole. then they were way to flexable. maybe thats why so many people had problems. all i know is me and my relay partner skated many a nationals on them, know problems. in fact they were just skated on last week at practice.
quadbob.

Ya I remember people doing some crazy garage craft with them too! lol I think that may be part of my problem with my dominator's They are super stiff and well I think I'm going to follow the Docs advise and look into roll lines! and i will probably have to suffer with a crappy 122! ew maybe a custom boot those 122's look like newbie boots!

has anyone tried the 911boot? custom is expensive but should be worth it!

[xlracer]

Ok here is another tease for you. I got this picture on Monday. The boot in the forground is a size 8 351 replica, MINE!!!!!!!:p. The Original O is a size 6. It looks pretty close. There are minor differences that I can see.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/NewBootfromShay.jpg

[cpd41]

But how does it feel???? Do you like it???? I guess kangaroo would be too much to hope for... :)

[xlracer]

He is building the right boot now and should ship them in a few weeks. His day job keeps him jumpin. So he is working nights and weekends. I have an Ultimate Dominator that I just got from the Doc yesterday waiting for it. After it is mounted and skated on, I will give my review to the maker and all of you.

[Laserskateplate]

He is building the right boot now and should ship them in a few weeks. His day job keeps him jumpin. So he is working nights and weekends. I have an Ultimate Dominator that I just got from the Doc yesterday waiting for it. After it is mounted and skated on, I will give my review to the maker and all of you.


Hey XL

I was thinking......I should be a test driver for that boot also......What do ya think????? lol
Also don't think I forgot about you with those woods......Still working on them......So save some nice stuff for a trade Cause these were never skated on either...........

[xlracer]

What size do you wear? Maybe we can work something out. I think we are pretty close to the same size right?

[cpd41]

Gee....I think LaserSkatePlate wears an 11...yeah that's the ticket...

LSP, when it comes and is much too big, let me know...maybe I'll take it off your hands for you...:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[Laserskateplate]

What size do you wear? Maybe we can work something out. I think we are pretty close to the same size right?


i wear a 7-8, prefer a 7.5 but any of the 3 will work.......I like the look very close......its about time he got going on this.....lol

[bazzman]

i was all jazzed up about these boots but the guy building them sounds real busy with his day job...and well just imagine how backed up he would be if/when he actually started taking orders!:rolleyes:

[uvafan420]

SIGN ME UP :biggrin:

[monzter]

SIGN ME UP :biggrin:
+1

[quadbob]

hey, no no no no,there mine i'm older and have seniority! :biggrin:
HEY XL i'd still like a custom, just say the word and i'm there.

quadbob.

[brystef]

Anyone seen the current oberhamer on ebay. Sz 12..too big for me!:frown:

[uvafan420]

Anyone seen the current oberhamer on ebay. Sz 12..too big for me!:frown:
Yeah, me to... :mad:
The owner is probably mad it is to big for me too for what I would give for one lol...

[pbandj_smakaroo]

Tell your friend to hang tight. I know of someone that is in the process of retooling the old Oberhamer 351's and 641's. He says he should have all of the patterns cut by the New Year and ready to start making new boot based on these great classics. I should have one in hand in a few weeks to try out. I will be spreading the word after I have a chance to skate on them. If they are as good as old Roy's boots he is going to make a lot of people really happy.

I'm glad someone decided to do this! Those look awesome! Crossing fingers for baby blue!

[kimmie]

Ok here is another tease for you. I got this picture on Monday. The boot in the forground is a size 8 351 replica, MINE!!!!!!!:p. The Original O is a size 6. It looks pretty close. There are minor differences that I can see.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/NewBootfromShay.jpg

Hey XL, If you ever need a home for that size 6...........:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[xlracer]

:p:rolleyes:hhmmmmmm
My boots are done. Finally. He wants to show them around before he ships them but they are coming. The word is that he has hired 4 full time people and they are working long hours getting this up to speed. Hopefully the long wait will soon be over. :biggrin:

[ncsk8rgirl]

:p:rolleyes:hhmmmmmm
My boots are done. Finally. He wants to show them around before he ships them but they are coming. The word is that he has hired 4 full time people and they are working long hours getting this up to speed. Hopefully the long wait will soon be over. :biggrin:

oh ahh.. me me me me me :D

Keep us posted!

[Live2sk888]

:p:rolleyes:hhmmmmmm
My boots are done. Finally. He wants to show them around before he ships them but they are coming. The word is that he has hired 4 full time people and they are working long hours getting this up to speed. Hopefully the long wait will soon be over. :biggrin:

Ohhh I hape you have them when I'm up there in a couple weeks!! LOL

[bazzman]

Hey xlracer would you do me a huge favor and find out if these can be ordered in a wider "D" width instead of the factory narrow "C" width that original 351s came in??...i have found that a factory original 351 is waaaaayyy too narrow for my foot and i remember that you wrote that these people making these replica 351s are using original 351 patterns...that goes for everyone out there in skate land....351s dont fit everyone the same!!...unless you have a "narrow" foot!....it would be cool if these can be ordered in a wider size!!...please pass this along to your contact xlracer!

[monzter]

Hey xlracer would you do me a huge favor and find out if these can be ordered in a wider "D" width instead of the factory narrow "C" width that original 351s came in??...i have found that a factory original 351 is waaaaayyy too narrow for my foot and i remember that you wrote that these people making these replica 351s are using original 351 patterns...that goes for everyone out there in skate land....351s dont fit everyone the same!!...unless you have a "narrow" foot!....it would be cool if these can be ordered in a wider size!!...please pass this along to your contact xlracer!


+1....I had to sell my 351 because it was too narrow in the middle. I need something a little bit wider too.

[jkstanley4]

+1

[73watermutt]

+2

[nutritiouspig]

Any update since last month? Have those 4 employees made my size 12 yet? ;)

[rsfaze]

- size 11.5 351!!

[A-Town Sk8er]

Whats the word Tracey? When should we expect to see any of these in production? Inquiring minds would like to know!;)

[xlracer]

I know my boot is making the rounds right now but I should have it a few weeks before quad nationals. Wew.....I am as of this past sunday skating on a borrowed 595 and Ultimate II. Thanks Artie. I love my old O but its just too soft for racing and it was killing my right foot. He is working on the website and cutting leather.

[bazzman]

I know my boot is making the rounds right now but I should have it a few weeks before quad nationals. Wew.....I am as of this past sunday skating on a borrowed 595 and Ultimate II. Thanks Artie. I love my old O but its just too soft for racing and it was killing my right foot. He is working on the website and cutting leather.


any word on if they can be built in a wider width?...if not non for me(said in my best soup nazi voice!:biggrin:)

[ncsk8rgirl]

LMAO.. the soup nazi... NO SOUP FOR YOU!

[pixy1879]

I about died when I saw a pic of this boot... it was same boot I made my 1st skates from.... I loved them more then anything... so soft. But my car was broken into and someone stole them... they probally didn't even know how rare that boot is and pawned it :mad:
Now I have finally regained my desire to rebuild my skates again... any idea on when this friend will be putting up the website?? They are the only boot I will consider remaking my skates with

[mrducks78]

maybe some sz 13's.. I would love a pair..:wink:

[dvw]

maybe some sz 13's.. I would love a pair..:wink:

Oh, no, not another 13! The pickin's are slim enough already!

[Shabba]

Well I'm sure there is a lot of people wanting these. :D

[pixy1879]

So is there any news yet on when your talanted friend is setting up a website? I went skating this weekend and had to rent.. ewwwwwwww bout damn near killed my feet

[tat2mike]

so ummm whats the deal i want size 9.5 or 10s lol are these out of florida i spoke to someone a while back and this was an idea they spoke of

[xlracer]

You never saw these comments

[rsfaze]

edit :D

[rsfaze]

so ummm whats the deal i want size 9.5 or 10s lol are these out of florida i spoke to someone a while back and this was an idea they spoke of

Hey mike its Robert from Semoran.. You coming out this Sunday? I am going to get the gang to come out to Tampa one of these nights ;)

[tat2mike]

im trying to build some skates now sold all my stuff like a big dummy now im trying to find some 351s wondering if it will ever happen :(

[airmandan10]

im trying to build some skates now sold all my stuff like a big dummy now im trying to find some 351s wondering if it will ever happen :(


Hey, stick with Skatelog and some O's will come your way.:D

[pixy1879]

my date is looming.... I was really hoping to hear anything on this, before my trip to nj is sept.... any word?????

[xlracer]

All I can say on this subject right now is that Lawyers are involved. :mad:
My pair of boots were done in June.:mad::mad::mad:
It will all be worked out. In the mean time he keeps making product.

[Kennedy]

Lawyers, f'n great.... :rolleyes:

Patiently waiting.

[A-Town Sk8er]

Lawyers, f'n great.... :rolleyes:

Patiently waiting.


Thats kinda funny if you ask me.... how in the world would lawyers be involved from a guy making O replica's? People make knock offs of the worlds greatest fashion designers things and get away with it ALL THE TIME! And your talking about multi million dollar companies annually... i dont think Roy Oberhamer was making that kinda bread. I guess my question would be........ how did the word get back to whomever got the lawyer involved:confused:

[A-Town Sk8er]

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[susanmcp]

VERY NICE!!

[xlracer]

:tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue:
Okay now that I have that out of my system. aaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa
Okay I will try to be an adult......
I just walked in the house with Shelby. We came in from practice, and there was a box sitting on the kitchen table. Uh huh.....My first impression.
OUTSTANDING WORKMANSHIP. I will be mounting them on my Ultimate Dominator and skating on them this weekend. I will also be taking lots of pics but I want to get the okay to put them up before I go crazy. I have been given the once in a lifetime privilege to test drive these new boots.
They are absolutely beautiful. The leather although not Kangaroo is nice and soft. The counters are long and feel nice and stiff. Included was even an original Oberhamer guide for the lacing system. I loved that.
Now for those of you that dont know I have a friend that for three years has been working from scratch to bring an old favorite back to the skating world.
This has been a long week for me. I got the email On monday that all of the legal issues were finally over and they must be because I am looking at a brand new pair of the nicest boots I have seen in a long time.
Stay tuned.....:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[rsfaze]

SERIOUSLY? No more editing past post about these boots? It's finally that time?

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

[xlracer]

I got the boots sitting right in front of me and goose bumps all over.

[dvw]

When do I get to see 'em?

[xlracer]

I can stop by tomorrow afternoon for you to see them.

[dvw]

I can stop by tomorrow afternoon for you to see them.

Cool! Call me first, though. I may not be at the shop in the afternoon, and I'd hate for you to waste the trip.

[bazzman]

are those boots you got the standard "C" narrow oberhamer width?...will they come (or could be ordered) in a standard "D" width??...this question seems to keep getting dodged for some reason!?:confused:

[splitwoods]

Thats kinda funny if you ask me.... how in the world would lawyers be involved from a guy making O replica's? People make knock offs of the worlds greatest fashion designers things and get away with it ALL THE TIME! And your talking about multi million dollar companies annually... i dont think Roy Oberhamer was making that kinda bread. I guess my question would be........ how did the word get back to whomever got the lawyer involved:confused:


Interesting post you have there A Town, so lets see,,,,

You obviously knew Roy personally, visited his plant, and his home and his bank, know quite a bit about the fellow, even how much wealth he may or may not have ammassed in his lifetime is that correct??

You also have intimate knowledge of the Oberhammer family and name, how much of the use of their name is protected from misuse or unauthorized use, I guess because you yourself are a lawyer and were probably there when his family took over the rights to the firm is that correct?

I also guess you never heard of Google and other engine searches, where one could simply plug in a name and see what and whom is using or plan to use a name for a given purpose is that correct??

Or maybe you feel this website is exclusive and only for your eyes only??

Roy in case you do not know, was one of the most successful bootmakers of all time, I cannot tell you in terms of total dollars sold (His was a private company and those details are confidential) , but I had been to his plant, we had represented the factory for 6 years as a leading distributor, and I can tell you he woluld turn over in his grave to know that anyone was planning a knock off of one of his products and using his name freely in describing his products, if it was unauthorized...if this legal inquiry which has been intimated here is true and it has indeed been settled, then it would appear that both the Oberhammer family and their lawyer are now comfortable and have resolved any concerns..

But please take this more seriously.....you speak from inexperience on such matters...there is way more to this then surface impressions. Why some manufacturers choose to go after knock off fabricators, and others choose not to do so is a question that can only be answered by each individual....
that too is a very complex scenario.....one weighs the cost of pursual to the cost of injury and makes a decision obviously....none of which explains what happened in this instance....

There seems to be a suspicion on your part that the Legal issue never happened....but then again you have all the answers...

Splitwoods

[xlracer]

The lawer for other the other party is for real. Splitwoods is right, you can make a knock off and sell it out of your trunk but if you want to start up a legit company and sell a product you better make sure you are going to be able to sell it and not end up in court for years because another party decides that they have the right to your profits.
The Oberhamer family had been contacted early in the process and for their part, the okay was given over a year ago for him to proceed with their blessings. The last stall came from the person who was running the company when they closed the doors and went out of business. He was a hired gun.
Shay wanted to recreate the boot as close to the orginal as possible. He also wanted to be able to tie it to the original product as much as possible. His intention is to pay homage to Roy and his company. I think this had alot to do with the reason the family did not fight him on this. As far as I know they will not be sold under the Oberhamer name.
I am impressed with his fortitude many people would have given up long before this. He has never stopped pushing forward with making this happen.
I am also impressed the the product at first inspection. They are very well made and so close the the original its very hard to tell they are not the real thing.

[Dec8rSk8r]

You even know how to spell the name of them correctly, unlike some people posting. :)

[A-Town Sk8er]

Interesting post you have there A Town, so lets see,,,,

You obviously knew Roy personally, visited his plant, and his home and his bank, know quite a bit about the fellow, even how much wealth he may or may not have ammassed in his lifetime is that correct??

You also have intimate knowledge of the Oberhammer family and name, how much of the use of their name is protected from misuse or unauthorized use, I guess because you yourself are a lawyer and were probably there when his family took over the rights to the firm is that correct?

I also guess you never heard of Google and other engine searches, where one could simply plug in a name and see what and whom is using or plan to use a name for a given purpose is that correct??

Or maybe you feel this website is exclusive and only for your eyes only??

Roy in case you do not know, was one of the most successful bootmakers of all time, I cannot tell you in terms of total dollars sold (His was a private company and those details are confidential) , but I had been to his plant, we had represented the factory for 6 years as a leading distributor, and I can tell you he woluld turn over in his grave to know that anyone was planning a knock off of one of his products and using his name freely in describing his products, if it was unauthorized...if this legal inquiry which has been intimated here is true and it has indeed been settled, then it would appear that both the Oberhammer family and their lawyer are now comfortable and have resolved any concerns..

But please take this more seriously.....you speak from inexperience on such matters...there is way more to this then surface impressions. Why some manufacturers choose to go after knock off fabricators, and others choose not to do so is a question that can only be answered by each individual....
that too is a very complex scenario.....one weighs the cost of pursual to the cost of injury and makes a decision obviously....none of which explains what happened in this instance....

There seems to be a suspicion on your part that the Legal issue never happened....but then again you have all the answers...

Splitwoods


Im speechless!!:eek: Ive never talked to you but i have seen alot of your post and figured you were a great guy. Obviously.... well... i was wrong! It just surprised me that someone actually found out... Im sorry that i even asked!:rolleyes: And on a side note...Oberhamer boots were certainly not a Coach, Gucci,Versace, Louis Vuitton, Tommy Hilfiger, Polo etc... So its just strange that someone actually found out that knock-offs were being produced. Thats all i was trying to say... sorry for pissing in your corn flakes this morning!!

[splitwoods]

You can save the sweet talk and the sarcasim.

There was a direct intimation in your post that detail that my friend Tracy was trying to provide was not true or inaccurate. And when someone pulls that on a friend, yes I will say something and try and set the record proper...

He is a heck of a lot closer to the fellow trying to bring this product to the market then you will ever be, and I for one would take his word on whatever he is hearing from the source to be truthful, over what you "Think" may be the case.

As far as using Roy's name on this boot, I personally would rather the manufacturer use his own. There would be far more opportunity for a knockoff to fail or not live up to the original by a startup company..let this boot stand on it's own 2 feet so to speak....

Calvano and I were proud to work with Roy. Donn and I created the original engineering for the first low cut racing shoe ever produced by him, it was the forerunner and prototype for all low cut models to follow from the 61BR
onward...first we tested them personally, tweaked them several times thru design alterations, then had several National champions work with us, tweaked them some more, until we finally went into production....the rest as they say is history.....

This was way before any other bootmaker in the US had even thought about manufacturing a low cut boot....I am talking 1970....were you even born yet????

I still have one of the first 2 pair ever produced here in like new condition, and they have many miles on them...

Splitwoods

[Dec8rSk8r]

Splitswoods, I don't think A-Town was trying to discredit your friend, he is a youthful person who making an idle comment and I think he was just surprized he offended you. Is that right, A-Town?

I am sorry for teasing you about misspelling Oberhamer. :redface: I felt you were being a bit harsh with your response to him.

We all want your friend's friend to succeed and provide us with good boots in the Oberhamer style eventually. I have some 351's and they are great. Roy Oberhamer obviously was a very successful bootmaker to have so many of us lining up to have replica boots made in the same tradition. So thank you for your pioneer engineering efforts in this area. Peace?

[splitwoods]

Splitswoods, I don't think A-Town was trying to discredit your friend, he is a youthful person who making an idle comment and I think he was just surprized he offended you. Is that right, A-Town?

I am sorry for teasing you about misspelling Oberhamer. :redface: I felt you were being a bit harsh with your response to him.

We all want your friend's friend to succeed and provide us with good boots in the Oberhamer style eventually. I have some 351's and they are great. Roy Oberhamer obviously was a very successful bootmaker to have so many of us lining up to have replica boots made in the same tradition. So thank you for your pioneer engineering efforts in this area. Peace?

Thank you for your kind words.

I could care less what your buddy ever thinks of me. I don't post here for a popularity contest, simply trying to add some been there, done that history to the forum. All I know is Roy was one of the finest gentlemen I ever met in the Skate industry. He took great pride in his workmanship and stood behind every one of his boots he ever shipped. If there was ever a problem, he repaired them or replaced them, right away, no questions asked.

I recall telling him about a skater I was coaching, that had not even 2 dimes to rub together but was long on skills. I set a nice pair of plates and our wheels and bearings aside for him as a gift.. He told me to mount a pair of his best boots, as a Christmas present for the lad....that is the Roy I remember!

When I see a person speak in a negative way about a friend to the sport, Roy, Tracy or anyone else I know personally, I will stand up for their honor and integrity.

When Roy passed away we lost one of the greats.

Far as my spelling or typing goes, it aint worth a darn, the sec'y died, as long as you can get the idea, this aint no spelling bee.

Nuff said

Splitwoods

[Dec8rSk8r]

Your welcome Splitwoods, and I don't know A-Town, or anyone else on here for that matter. I know everyone on the forum has the great good sense to share the same obsession in skating as I have, :) so in a sense we are all kindred spirits. It is always good to hear about the background and history on the sport we all love.

[xlracer]

Okay I have a couple of pics.
Here is a sneak peek
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/Skates001.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/Skates003-1.jpg

Nice thick foam on the tongue.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/Skates004-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/Skates007-1.jpg

This is a picture of an original 351.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/ae_1.jpg

[A-Town Sk8er]

You can save the sweet talk and the sarcasim.

Id never sweet talk a man 1st off and there was nothing sarcastic about what i said

There was a direct intimation in your post that detail that my friend Tracy was trying to provide was not true or inaccurate. And when someone pulls that on a friend, yes I will say something and try and set the record proper...

Tracy and i have talked numerous times about these boots behind the walls of this forum. I was in no way trying to accuse him of false information....Sorry you took it that way

He is a heck of a lot closer to the fellow trying to bring this product to the market then you will ever be, and I for one would take his word on whatever he is hearing from the source to be truthful, over what you "Think" may be the case.

What does this have to do with anything? I already have REAL Oberhamers... I wish Shay all the best of luck but personally... i have no desire to know this man.

As far as using Roy's name on this boot, I personally would rather the manufacturer use his own. There would be far more opportunity for a knockoff to fail or not live up to the original by a startup company..let this boot stand on it's own 2 feet so to speak....

Makes sense to me but this has nothing to do with me or Tracy i would imagine.


I will not appologize for anything i have said but i will explain what i was talking about when i wrote that post. I simply thought that someone was giving Tracy the run-around. I know he has waited on these boots for awhile now and i just thought that this was an excuse as to why the production had stopped/not finished etc... Also Richard i have met Tracy and would never question anything he says on this forum. I was simply questioning what came from someone elses mouth. Tracy and I have always gotten along and i have nothing but respect for him. I also have the up most respect for the greatest speed boot builder to ever live and thats Mr. Roy Oberhamer. Im sorry you took it the wrong way.........

[splitwoods]

Tracy:

Good to see you finally have in hand your sample pair, now the true test, how they skate, how comfortable they are as they break in and beyond, how well the counters hold up, how well the stitching and the tongue liner holds up etc...

Is this his only prototype pair thus far??

What is his projection on how long it will take to start to inventory sizes for prompt shipment and what does he propose to sell them for??

Splitwoods

[xlracer]

I want to mount them tonight so I can skate this weekend. I do not know about pricing at this time. This in not the first or only pair. Shay has a pair,
I now have mine and I believe that there are two or three other pairs for testing. Shay told me that he had pairs made for 4 people to skate quad nationals but the legal hassel stopped that. I saw Chet at Nationals and he confirmed that all 4 pairs of the boots were done and he had seen them. Chet owns the Cedartown Rink where Shay lives.
When I asked Shay about what he was doing last he told me that he was continuing to purchase leather and cutting it up in patterns to start production. He also has his website designed. He intends to make the boots based on the original patterns. So to put the burning question to rest, they
are just like the originals as far as width is concerned. Making wider boots would not be an easy task.
Richard you are aware but for the folks that dont know. Everything would have to be modified. New patterns made and cut new last made and retooling for new soles. It would be just as easy to make a complete custom based on molds from your feet. Based on the cost of full customs boots these days
most of us wont opt for that. If you happen to have 500 - 1000 to throw at customs and are willing to wait for two to three months then you might be able to get him to make you a pair of 12's in a D or E width.
He is on the road right now. I will ask him next week for details on when the web site will be up and running. I am sure he will want the testers to skate the boots and provide some feedback before he flips the switch.

[splitwoods]

Tracy:

We sold a LARGE volume of boots for Roy over the timeframe we distributed for him. The vast majority never had problems with the standard width boots, however Roy did make up widths on custom order, as you say it simply takes time and money to do so, but could be done back in the day. A good shoemaker could streatch at least a half size without overstressing the older boots.....a full C to a D for example using that method I would not trust personally...JMHO!

FYI a good skate test timeframe for us would go all the way from First workout, thru complete breakin of the boot, and then a month or two, start to finish...we kept good records of everything we liked and disliked and reported to Roy regularly until we eventually had it to where we wanted it...
To each their own! Good luck Tracy.....

Splitwoods

[bazzman]

"He intends to make the boots based on the original patterns. So to put the burning question to rest, they
are just like the originals as far as width is concerned."

well that answers my question!!....im in Love with my nice light weight comfy Bont carbons anyway!:p...all you skinny footed people rejoice and take advantage of this opportunity!

[Kennedy]

Okay I have a couple of pics.


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/Skates003-1.jpg



Wow, nice work on the boots. The stitching looks real nice.


Still waiting on release of these for production. :drool:

[xlracer]

Skates.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/NewOs003.jpg

They are very comfy. I have been on them three times. The first skate I got a couple of hot spots. No blisters, no blood. Thats a good thing. I got the trucks set up on Sunday finally and they skate nice. I will continue with updates on the break in as I continue to skate them.
Not one word about the plate being too long. I could not make myself part out my 595/Ultimate II combo. :rolleyes: That wheel base is shorter.
FYI Thats my speed baby in the back ground Shelby Lynn, trying to make me think she is as dedicated to her homework as she is to speedskating.

[rwbskates]

Looks VERY nice. Plate size looks ok on the boot, looks like you have the axel nuts on backwards with nylon locker facing the bearing?!? how much and when will they avaliable to public?:biggrin:

[coppinger]

Wish this guy could get it completed..... I really like those.... Gosh now to decide bonts or "O"'s....

[dvw]

Tracy, you are soooo killin' me with those!! I can't decide which I like better, the Dominators or the boots. (Are mine done yet?)

I won't say a word about the plate length, but I have to take a swipe at you about the toe stops!!! Any lower and the front wheels wouldn't touch!

* ducks and runs away :biggrin:

[A-Town Sk8er]

Skates.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/xlracer/NewOs003.jpg

They are very comfy. I have been on them three times. The first skate I got a couple of hot spots. No blisters, no blood. Thats a good thing. I got the trucks set up on Sunday finally and they skate nice. I will continue with updates on the break in as I continue to skate them.
Not one word about the plate being too long. I could not make myself part out my 595/Ultimate II combo. :rolleyes: That wheel base is shorter.
FYI Thats my speed baby in the back ground Shelby Lynn, trying to make me think she is as dedicated to her homework as she is to speedskating.


Glad they worked out well for you after the LONG wait Tracy.... They look amazing!:D

[xlracer]

That toe stop is set up for running starts. They really get in the way skating session. I need to get set of plugs so I can take em out for sessions.
They dont get n the way racing but you cant shuffle worth a crap with them like that. DVW, I was at the Skate Zone Sunday with the kids. I thought I might see you there with yours. If you are in town this weekend maybe we can hang out Sunday afternoon at the Zone.

[dvw]

That toe stop is set up for running starts. They really get in the way skating session. I need to get set of plugs so I can take em out for sessions.

I had to take a poke at something! :tongue:

They dont get n the way racing but you cant shuffle worth a crap with them like that. DVW, I was at the Skate Zone Sunday with the kids. I thought I might see you there with yours. If you are in town this weekend maybe we can hang out Sunday afternoon at the Zone.

We were going to go Sunday, but my daughter had a monster math test to study for, so we spent the afternoon at the kitchen table instead. We'll almost certainly go this coming weekend, so hopefully I'll see you Sunday afternoon.

[xlracer]

We had a good time. The crowd was small so the kids and I had room to skate. Shelby got to show off her skills so it shouldnt be hard to get them back this weekend too.

[Teofina]

I would also like to know when and if these boots are going to be available. I had a pair FOREVER ago that got fried in a truck fire. I had the Oberhamer 351 Winner's Choice boot with Ultimate II plates and FanJets. I cried more about those skates than anything else in the truck or even the truck itself. They were the absolute most comfortable boot I have ever had. I have a pair of skates now that I couldn't tell you what kind they are because I don't really like them and don't skate much because I don't like them. And I found this forum searching for a new pair only to find out that you can't get them anymore - until the end of this thread brought a glimmer of hope!

[xlracer]

Shay does travel alot with his day job. If he is home I always get an response from my emails the next day. I shot him one yesterday but he has not responded. This tells me he is out of town for a few days. My last email had all of the important questions about time frame and price. I should have something next week. I have skated on mine 4 times now. I am very pleased at this point in time. I will be skating again this weekend.

[Teofina]

From the pics, they look awesome! I know you must be super excited about skating in them. I will keep checking back to this thread for status.

[bazzman]

I would also like to know when and if these boots are going to be available. I had a pair FOREVER ago that got fried in a truck fire. I had the Oberhamer 351 Winner's Choice boot with Ultimate II plates and FanJets. I cried more about those skates than anything else in the truck or even the truck itself. They were the absolute most comfortable boot I have ever had. I have a pair of skates now that I couldn't tell you what kind they are because I don't really like them and don't skate much because I don't like them. And I found this forum searching for a new pair only to find out that you can't get them anymore - until the end of this thread brought a glimmer of hope!


ebay, skatelog classifieds/craigslist and thrift shops are your friend...people including myself have found little Gems hiding in all those places i just mentioned....you just have to be patient and keep a constant vigil on the aforementioned places...but i promise something will pop up eventually.

[xlracer]

Bazz is right on. If you watch those sites and network here you can find all kinds of very cool stuff. Bazz I have to tell ya, this boot fits my fat foot very well. Absolutely no pinch in the toe box.