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Kathie Fry
November 3rd, 2006, 09:25 PM
Jim Safianuk's last day editing the About.com inline skating Web site was November 2, 2006, and you can read his farewell message at http://inlineskating.about.com/b/a/257166.htm. We've enjoyed what you've done with that site over the last two years Jim. Best of luck to you!

Since Jim has left that position, About.com will probably start advertising for a new inline skating editor soon. Is anybody interested in the job?

I was the editor of that site during the four years before Jim, so if you want to ask me what it's like to work for About.com, you can ask questions in this thread or send email to kathiefry@skatelog.com.

- Kathie

TRS-SKATER
November 3rd, 2006, 09:32 PM
^I think your the perfrect gal for em!
Go on do it
btw i think i should get those buiseness cards soon

Kathie Fry
November 3rd, 2006, 09:40 PM
Not me... I left that job after four years because I no longer had time to maintain both the About.com skating site and my own. But if anybody is interested in applying, and they want a little information about the job, I'll be happy to answer any question I can.

- Kathie

motosk8ter
November 4th, 2006, 05:28 AM
O/I, now here is job for you. Your perfect for it! Phil

online inline
November 4th, 2006, 08:38 AM
No thanks, I only know about speed skating. I;'m not a generalist. I only know one niche, and it doesn;t represenet the majority of inline ksating enthusiasts.

speedysktr
November 4th, 2006, 09:38 AM
No thanks, I only know about speed skating. I;'m not a generalist. I only know one niche, and it doesn;t represenet the majority of inline ksating enthusiasts.
What do editors do? They edit. Has anyone ever seen one ounce of editing from the oi? :p

Kathie Fry
November 4th, 2006, 12:40 PM
By the way, in case anybody is not familiar with the About.com inline skating Web site, it is located at http://inlineskating.about.com

Interested parties can apply for the Inline Skating Editor job as soon as it appears in the list of Available Topics (http://beaguide.about.com/topics.htm) on the About.com Be a Guide (http://beaguide.about.com/) page.

-Kathie

AAA
November 4th, 2006, 04:25 PM
I write for wiseorb, and do play a lot of hockey. I need more info of how to apply and everything. Also is there a place where I can get ice skating lessons online? Thanks

online inline
November 4th, 2006, 04:49 PM
..is there a place where I can get ice skating lessons online? ...

lessons might prove more fruitful at your local ice skating rink.

Jon B.
November 4th, 2006, 06:16 PM
What do editors do? They edit. Has anyone ever seen one ounce of editing from the oi? :p
COFFEE SNORT!!!! :D JB

online inline
November 4th, 2006, 07:19 PM
har dee har har.

Kathie Fry
November 4th, 2006, 08:03 PM
I need more info of how to apply and everything After "Inline Skating" appears in the list of available topics on this page...
http://beaguide.about.com/applynow.htm

... you should select "inline skating" (or whatever topic you want to apply for) and then select "next" to be guided through the application process.

I expect that inline skating will appear on that list within the next week or two.

-Kathie

Kathie Fry
November 7th, 2006, 08:40 PM
I noticed today that "inline skating" has appeared on the list of available topics at About.com, so anybody who is interested in applying for About.com's inline skating editor job can do it now on this page:

About.com Guide Application
http://beaguide.about.com/applynow.htm
(guide = editor at About.com)

- Kathie

Code Monkey
November 7th, 2006, 09:08 PM
Kathie is doing her best to ignore you guys. I nominate speedysktr. You could not find a better match. OI has other obligations as a foot stunt double in horror movies. I would do it but I think you have to know how to spell and as speedysktr would lucently point out, I can't do that. Jon B., yeah Jon B., he's not very busy at work. Just stands around (with intermittent fast walking) all day. :D

skaterdog
November 8th, 2006, 01:21 AM
I'll second Jon's vote for JT. I can see OI contributing an article on controlling foot fungus or some such though.

Kathie did a great job and to be honest it wasn't much without her there. Let's face it it was very weak with that other dude.

online inline
November 8th, 2006, 01:47 AM
Yes, i believe Pseedy's consumate wit and keen sense of humor would serve him well. And maybe he's even interested?!

As for me and the notion of "getting paid to write about skating", i think i am actually much closer to the point where i could legitimely get paid to not write any more about skating. And not posting any more pics.

Sad but true.

speedysktr
November 8th, 2006, 01:54 AM
... i think i am actually much closer to the point where i could legitimely get paid to not write any more about skating. And not posting any more pics.
Sad but true.Funny thing, that, and let me finish before you get mad... <<sike>> :p

edit: Thank you everyone for the kind words and I'm going to look into it. :)

motosk8ter
November 8th, 2006, 03:49 AM
The choice is obvious, Speedy is the man;)

Phil

mvirtue
November 8th, 2006, 03:53 AM
Another vote for Speedy here.

online inline
November 8th, 2006, 06:17 AM
Seriously, i think you'd do a great job, JT. Hope it looks like something you'd be interested in.

Pepper Montana
November 8th, 2006, 10:24 AM
I vote for Speedy, with one small reservation. In spite of what he says, "Sike" is not spelled that way. You would think that a potential editor would know and use the correct spelling of the word. It is spelled psych! I know that he found an online slang dictionary that has that bastagized spelling but he needs to let s.i.k.e. go.

speedysktr
November 8th, 2006, 10:40 AM
I'll just have to stop saying it. I can't let go of my heartfelt conviction. Thanks again, gents. We'll have to see if the About.com folks agree. :)

edit: Application submitted. Cross your fingers. ;)

Code Monkey
November 8th, 2006, 01:40 PM
Hey people at About.com, if you read these posts and the amount of attention, care, thought and humor that speedysktr puts into this forum and how so many all agree we need speedysktr I know without a doubt, that you would be making the correct choice in hiring him.

janneman
November 8th, 2006, 08:29 PM
strange my name does not get mentioned here - I'm so convinced i'm a good writer :D

maybe you think i dont know Sh## about skating and my points of interest / specialism are different topics ? (looking *really* angelic here)

motosk8ter
November 11th, 2006, 05:44 AM
JMan, You'd be great at it. Is this something you really want to do? The Dutchese would be a great twist on it! You are awesome! Phil:D

online inline
November 11th, 2006, 07:10 AM
I don't know...Janneman....sure, he's a great guy, and clearly has what it takes, but the Dutch thing..... I just can't get over the Dutch at the ice speed skating olympics earlier this year. I mean, talk about fanatics! If the editorship goes over there, will we ever get it back?

motosk8ter
November 12th, 2006, 07:33 PM
O/I, You are right, they went bonkers! I still want one of those gold crowns they had for support. JMan is holding onto them and will not share...Phil

XxRoll4LifexX
November 28th, 2006, 02:09 AM
hmm so aparently u all want to write about rollerblading.. what history do you have regarding skating?

Kathie Fry
November 28th, 2006, 02:30 AM
what history do you have regarding skating
People who work as About.com editors have all different kinds of backgrounds. About's new inline skating editor could be a skater with a flair for writing, a writer with a flair for skating, a skating instructor, a skating fan, the parent of a skater, a skating official... could be any of those or something else. About.com is doing the hiring, not us, so applicants are not expected to post their qualifications here.

- Kathie

Kathie Fry
March 1st, 2007, 02:59 PM
The About.com Inline Skating editor job is still open and I notice the pay and some of the job requirements have increased recently. Here are About.com's new answers to some of the most frequently asked questions about working for them as an editor.

How Much Do About.com Editors Get Paid?
From About.com: The basis of Guide compensation is year-over-year page view growth. As of 1/1/07, if your page views grow you will never make less than $725 per month and it's likely you'll make much more than that over time (in some cases we have Guides who earn in excess of $100,000 per year).

Pay Guarantee For the First Two Years
From About.com: Guides in the first two years of their contract are guaranteed to make at least $725 per month, and it's likely that they will make much more than that over time.

How Much Content Does a Guide Need to Create?
From About.com: At a minimum About Guides must publish two full-length articles every 14 days and update their blog one to three times per week. However, the potential for your GuideSite is really up to you. The more high-quality, relevant content you produce, the more you can earn.

How Much Time Does It Take?
From About.com: The amount of time Guides spend working on the GuideSite varies greatly. We have found that a minimum of 20 hours a week is necessary to create a successful GuideSite. In general, the more time Guides invest, the more successful the GuideSite will be.

You can apply to be the editor of the About.com Inline Skating Web Site (http://inlineskating.about.com) by connecting to the Apply Now (http://beaguide.about.com/applynow.htm) page on About.com's Be A Guide (http://beaguide.about.com/) page and selecting "Inline Skating" from the Available Topics drop-down box.

Just FYI... I no longer work for About.com and I am not affiliated with them in any way. I just don't like to see that site sitting empty without an editor.

- Kathie

brikkee
March 1st, 2007, 03:55 PM
i'm still waiting to get paid for my skating skills and i dont see that any time soon.

fablemaker2
March 1st, 2007, 11:20 PM
I wouldn't mind working as an adjunct editor. I just can't commit to 20 hours per week. That's about how much discretionary time that I have per week, and I devote a bit to actually skating.

chuckboucher
March 2nd, 2007, 11:56 AM
I wish I had 20 free hours to do this. It sounds like a lot of fun. Unfortunately, I just tacked on 5-6 hours per week of off-skate exercises to my already full schedule.

inlina
March 7th, 2007, 04:38 AM
Has anyone applied and received any feedback on this? It seems to have been open for a long time.

CG

Kathie Fry
March 7th, 2007, 01:19 PM
The position has been open quite a while - since early November 2006. Quite a few people have applied, and some of them have been accepted into the formal evaluation process over the last few months, but About.com has not hired anybody yet. People who apply will definitely get feedback from About.com but sometimes it doesn't happen right away. As you can see from earlier messages in this thread, some of the folks in this forum were hoping our speedysktr would apply, but he decided against it. I found the job very satisfying in many ways, but it does require a significant time commitment.

- Kathie

Davey_Speedstar
March 30th, 2007, 08:57 AM
Iíve been thinking seriously about this for the last couple of days. Iíve written a few articles over the years about skating if anyoneís really interested some are libraried here (http://www.nottinghamskaters.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=9).

I was wondering (Kathie) what is considered to be the size of a Ďfull lengthí article? Iíve been of the opinion that between 1000 Ė 1500 words (http://www.nottinghamskaters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154) is long enough to get well balanced opinion/review across. Is this the sort of thing that About.com might consider acceptable?

The other things fromthe about.com site that Iím not too sure about are:

1. Iíve never (knowingly) worked with html. How hard is this to learn? Is there such a thing as an html editor that might make life easier?

2. What is a content management system? Iíve never even heard of this, so on the basis that the most advanced thing I can do is create hyperlinks and post pictures in forums, am I going to have problems learning the technology?

Dave

Kathie Fry
March 30th, 2007, 02:06 PM
OMG Davey, do it! It would be so great if you got that job. I'm not certain about the minimum length of articles, but I know that About.com knows really long articles are not suitable for the Web. In a few minutes I will post a link to some of the article directories of a few of About.com's more long-term guides (aka editors) so you can get an idea of what other guides are doing.

One piece of advice I have for anyone who is applying, and I cannot emphasize this strongly enough. If you get accepted into the formal evaluation process, you will probably have about three weeks to build a sample Web site to show About.com what you can do. Before you are invited to do that, you will be asked to do a little writing to give them confidence you should even be accepted into the formal application process. My advice is that people should take those application processes very seriously and plan to devote as much time as possible to polishing up their sample Web site. Plan to pretty much put the rest of your life on hold during those three weeks. There's a lot of competition for About.com guide positions and some very good people have applied and not been hired. The good news is - for me anyway - the actual job was nowhere near as stressful as that application period. I enjoyed working for About.com and I would be doing it now if I were not involved in so many other things.

Don't worry about HTML and the content management system. You definitely do not need to know HTML to become an About.com editor. The content management system is just a series of Web forms and templates used by editors to create articles and post them on their sites. About.com has made it easy for people with no HTML knowledge to edit their sites.

- Kathie

Kathie Fry
March 30th, 2007, 02:20 PM
Here are some articles written by a few of About.com's more long-term sports and fitness guides:


Scuba Diving Articles (http://scuba.about.com/popular.htm) (Melissa Rodriguez)
Skateboarding Articles (http://skateboard.about.com/popular.htm) (Steve Cave)
Sports Medicine Articles (http://sportsmedicine.about.com/popular.htm) (Elizabeth Quinn)
Walking Articles (http://walking.about.com/popular.htm) (Wendy Bumgardner)
Waterskiing Articles (http://waterski.about.com/popular.htm) (Julie Bostian)


I Hope that helps,

- Kathie

Davey_Speedstar
March 30th, 2007, 03:08 PM
Hmmm it looks fairly straightforward to keep a site fresh, while I was in the shower this morning I was able to think up enough subjects to write somewhere from 6 months to a years worth of material!

I have thought about this fleetingly over the last few months, however with the small amount of spare time I have each week, I would rather spend it out and about actually skating rather than sat in front of a computer writing about it. So the job wasnít particularly attractive.

However Mrs_Speedstar and I are thinking about relocating to sunnier climes in the non-too-distant future. So not only do I see it as a way of writing about my hobby, but to see ourselves through a period of which might be rather dry on the employment front. So this isnít for the entirely altruistic reason some people might think or be expecting.

This brings me to the Ďbottom-lineí - how does About.com make its money? Iím assuming that itís through on-screen advertisers, and click through rates from the guides. Does this mean that editor's earnings are dependant on the number of visitors to the site, or to the number of adverts that are clicked?

Dave

Kathie Fry
March 30th, 2007, 03:53 PM
About.com does make its money from advertising, so your income is dependent on the advertising success of your site, except you are guaranteed to make at least $750 USD per month during the first two years. After the first two years you are guaranteed to make at least $750 per month if (and only if) your page views continue to grow.

Some sites will always make more then $750 per month and sometimes quite a lot more, even if their page views do not grow. But if yours is one of the sites with smaller advertising revenue, that $750 minimum, and making sure your page views always grow, is important after the first two years.

- Kathie

Kathie Fry
September 10th, 2007, 05:06 AM
Hmmm... I notice Inline Skating is no longer on the list of available topics (http://beaguide.about.com/topics.htm) at About.com (http://www.about.com/). I wonder if that means they finally hired a new guide? I will be watching the About Inline Skating (http://inlineskating.about.com/) site closely over the next couple of weeks.

- Kathie

Davey_Speedstar
September 11th, 2007, 12:01 PM
The blog entries are still being updated by 'apply now'

http://inlineskating.about.com/b/a/257266.htm

Kathie Fry
September 11th, 2007, 07:19 PM
LOL... "Apply Now" is Jo Ann Schneider Farris, the About.com figure skating editor. She's maintaining the blog until a new inline skating editor is hired. My guess... if they've hired somebody we'll see the "Apply Now" disappear from the site within a couple of weeks. We shall see!

- Kathie

Davey_Speedstar
September 12th, 2007, 07:39 AM
I really must learn to read before I post. I took this:

Hmmm... I notice Inline Skating is no longer on the list of available topics (http://beaguide.about.com/topics.htm) at About.com (http://www.about.com/).

To meant that about.com were pulling the inline section from the site :redface:

Kathie Fry
September 13th, 2007, 03:39 AM
OMG Davey, I hope not!

- K

Davey_Speedstar
October 3rd, 2007, 02:31 PM
The new host has arrived (http://inlineskating.about.com/mbiopage.htm)