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Soul-Glo
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
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I have always used WD-40 as a very effective degreaser for other purposes than bearings. Spray on, let the muck run off, wipe down, apply lithium grease or whatever it is you prefer to use, this has always worked really well for me but it's my understanding that it's not the best method for bearings. Maybe I'll give it a try though.. who knows, might stumble on something that really works well... or I might ruin a set of bearings
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Arizona
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I use Denatured Alcohol (Lowes, Home Depot) and a Bones bearing cleaning jar. Works awesome, removes old grease, dries fast, does not leave a residue. Cleans plastic/nylon cages well also. If needed I will use a nylon brush. I use compressed air to dry and apply Bones Speed Cream.
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Pro Bike Chaser
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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For cleaning and emergency water removal, WD40 is good. For using as intended lubrication, WD40 is bad and causes problems.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Big hill on Mars
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Jump On It
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Baldwin, MD
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DOC (or anyone). I have searched the forums for "storing bearings" "bearing storage" "bearing tubes" and numerous other search terms with little luck. What is the best way to store bearings for longer-term. Right now I oil them and stick them in baggies, but that isn't ideal for me. I was thinking coin tubes or some other air-tight cylinder. BUT even if I found something, what is the best storage oil-something more viscous? WD-40 prevents corrosion, is that enough?
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Yankee Catfish
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Every once in a while you can score tubes that hold 50 bearings on eBay...
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I'd imagine I'd want to take off the dust covers but leave the balls inside their retainers/races.
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lincoln, United Kingdom
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OK...
I just this week found a better way to clean my bearings ![]() I bought a product that's sold for cleaning bike (motor bike or bicycle) chains - it smells like it's isopropyl alcohol based & evaporates real quick after application, I got it from my local Lidl. It made my bearings free-spin a lot faster and quieter than any other substance I've used (more crud evident on the newspaper I use to tap the bearings on too). I also got a can of ptfe-based lube and will let you know how that works after I've skated the bearings ![]() I guess the guys recommending Isopropyl alcohol were right ![]()
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Ex-Pat Wiganer
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lincoln, United Kingdom
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The brand name is W5, picked it up for 99p at my local Lidl, comes in an aerosol
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Tacoma, WA
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Seriously unless your bearings are made of plastic never use water on them. Tempered stainless steel will corrode faster then you could ever dry them. I suggest you head down to your local bike shop and pick up an organic de-greaser. Something like Finishline Citrus works good to remove oil and dirt.
Now if you have ceramic bearings only use what the manufacturer recommends. If they recommend water and soap than have at it. |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Care to expand on where this interesting info is coming from?? I'm curious...
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Join Date: May 2010
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Doc Sk8, Sure I will gladly share where I gleaned my information from. For a number of years I was CNC technician. I spent two years going to school to learn how to repair and maintain 5 axis milling machines used to build airplane skins and spars for Boeing. In that two years of training I spend 40 hours of training on everything about bearing from how they work, to how to clean and repair bearings. Over the years I have had extensive experiences working with bearings much smaller than the ones used for skating to bearings used in AC drive motors that weigh over a thousand pounds. In my previous job it was critical that I understood how bearings worked and how to services them correctly. These where bearings that needed to operate for 1000's hours without failure.
I can see how you could think that water would not hurt a stainless steel bearing but I have 2" stainless steel ball out of a bearing that was wet for less than 5 minutes that is discolored because of the corrosion process was already underway. Now in the precision bearing that are used for skates wheels we cannot get a clear picture of the bearing without destroying the bearing. But after you clean a bearing and if you can see any discoloration of the race the process of changing the chemical structure of the bearing has started. |
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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I understand your background and appreciate your concerns...but SK8 bearings are NOT precision machine bearings. The applications are as different as night and day. I suggest most sk8rs routinely sk8 and have no issues with bearings that would be thrown away in a precision machine application...
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Ex-Pat Wiganer
Join Date: Jun 2009
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It is nice to get input from people with some education in the field of precision bearings but, as Doc said, a skate ain't a precision machine - heck, the tolerances in wheel hubs and between inner bearing race and axle would make a machine operator/engineer cry in most cases ![]()
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Houston, TX
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This thread has provided much good info and I think I now know what I have to do as far as removal, cleaning solution, drying, etc.
How do you know when it's time for the FIRST cleaning/lube of new bearings? How many hours would you typically skate before doing the first cleaning/lube? My situation is indoor quad skating, pretty clean floors, I only notice a little dust on the wheels/trucks so far after about 15 hrs total. Bearings have covers, still rolling about as good as the first time out. Skates stored indoors, cool/dry conditions. Thanks everyone!
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Black Az Mike
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mesa,Az
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I have a set of BONE SWISS bearings that are over 15 years old and they started to rust from my dads swamp cooler. here is what I did.....
Step 1. put bearings in a glass jar filled with wd-40 and soak 2. pull out of jar and dry off with a lint free towell 3. use a few cans of chlorinated brake cleaner(alchol base) and spray until all debri/grease/dirt/wd-40 is out. 4.blow dry with a air compressor with a high pressure blow gun 5.apply bones speed cream to each bearing(use alot) 6. install them in a old set of wheel and take the dog for a few runs around the neighborhood. This will alow excess lube to remove itself from the bearings. 7. remove from the old wheels and wipe with a clean towell. 8. install in your rink wheels and they will haul a..... ![]() This is what I did recently and WOW!!!! Now I see why I paid so much for a bearing that still spins longer than most ABEC rated bearings ![]() ![]() I did the same thing with my sons cheap skateboard bgs and they roll like new again. Here is the parts list of what I used... 1 case of CHLORINATED brake parts cleaner(autozone,napa,checker,kragen,etc) 1 bottle of wd-40(autozone,napa,checker,kragen,etc) 1 bottle of bones spped cream or whatever you prefer. (skate shop) 1 bag of micro-fiber rags(autozone,napa,checker,kragen,etc) 1 six pack of your favorite beverage ![]()
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Black Az Mike
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mesa,Az
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Ex-Pat Wiganer
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lincoln, United Kingdom
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I would recommend storing bearings in a jar with wd-40 though.
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