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Ask DocSk8 (Expert Indoor Skate Building Advice) This forum is different then the other SkateLog forums in that it is not a discussion forum, but rather a place you can ask skate building expert Fred "DocSk8" Benjamin about building and repairing indoor speed, derby, and jamskate quad roller skates. Please start a new thread for each new question.

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Old March 24th, 2018, 07:35 PM   #1
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Default Arius Platinum vs Matrix, Variance, Mistral, Energy, etc

I am fairly new to quad skating. I am trying to get into more of the artistic, Jam, style indoor skating. I am looking to build a custom pair of skates. I urgently roll Riedel Angels 111 size 13 which is too large I think I needed a size 12, or 12.5. I plan to move up to the OG boots because they are real leather as opposed to those man-made stiff boots that won’t break in.

My question is should I go with an Arius plate $345, or one of the Roll line plates?

I weigh 245 lbs, I do not plan on jumping. I may learn how to spin someday. But I need to be able to Jam Skate.

If I need a size 12, it doesn’t seem as if the remaining roll line for the plates that will accommodate. The other question is whether not I need a 45° angle king pen pivot truck with a 22.5degree, or 10° king pen foot plate truck combination for what I plan to do.

What are the pros and cons, because the seem to be in the same price-point.

Or should I just look for the sure grip/Power dyne advantage avenger plates. I was just wanting get a plate that responds without seeming that the trucks are too loose and swirly?
Any advice helps
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Old March 27th, 2018, 06:48 PM   #2
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I am fairly new to quad skating.

Well then, welcome aboard.

I am trying to get into more of the artistic, Jam, style indoor skating.

Help me out here, Jam sk8ing and artistic sk8ing are 2 different things..and generally use 2 different types of sk8s.


I am looking to build a custom pair of skates. I urgently roll Riedel Angels 111

That is more of an artistic style of sk8, but way too big to have a plastic plate.

size 13 which is too large I think I needed a size 12, or 12.5.

Adults need to have properly fitting boots. I get absolutely ill when I see someone on the lookout for boot x in size 9 or 10. I got news for those folks, while one can get away with a "sorta" fit on street shoes (like going up a size to get a better width fit) that does not cut it in sk8s. Even a 1/2 size off can make the difference between OK and awesome.

I plan to move up to the OG boots because they are real leather as opposed to those man-made stiff boots that won’t break in.

Let me clarify here. The boots are 172s. The "OG" designation is for the model of sk8 that Riedell uses them on. (I had to look). Nice boots BTW if you are into that kind of thing. That is more of a JB style of boot.

My question is should I go with an Arius plate $345, or one of the Roll line plates? I weigh 245 lbs, I do not plan on jumping. I may learn how to spin someday. But I need to be able to Jam Skate.

How high is up?? First off, I'm still not exactly certain what kind of sk8ing you want to do. I have seen folks jam sk8 in high tops, but the really good one use low cut speed style boots since heavy boots / sk8s really do not help folks with a lot of the jam style moves.


If I need a size 12, it doesn’t seem as if the remaining roll line for the plates that will accommodate.

Uh I have put Roll Lines on size 14s great success. (I ignore the manufacturers recommendations. They truly limit performance possibilities.)


The other question is whether not I need a 45° angle king pen pivot truck with a 22.5degree, or 10° king pen foot plate truck combination for what I plan to do.

I have seen sk8rs on everything from Labeda Pro Lines (5°) to Sure grip Avengers (30°, ignore the whole DA45 thing, that was a naming convention I fought against and lost when Sure Grip brought the DA45s out. )

What are the pros and cons, because the seem to be in the same price-point.

Or should I just look for the sure grip/Power dyne advantage avenger plates. I was just wanting get a plate that responds without seeming that the trucks are too loose and swirly?
Any advice helps
OK now I'm lost. Power Dyne does not make the Advantage (Snyder) or the Avenger (Sure Grip) Power Dyne does make the Arius (personally not a fan since I like my trucks to be "too loose and swirly"..) Sk8s should steer and do it well across the entire range of turning...

So try to further define the sk8ing style you are going to pursue and hopefully I can point you in a the right direction.
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