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Old August 9th, 2018, 12:33 AM   #1
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a while back i saw a post that showed cutaways of aluminum hubbed wheels. Was wondering which set of wheels had the widest hub, most support of the urethane?
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I'll have to dig them out and measure. Not a whole lot of difference I think.
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Old August 9th, 2018, 01:18 PM   #3
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I'll have to dig them out and measure. Not a whole lot of difference I think.
I'm wondering about having wider hubs and less lip hanging out unsupported. If the urethane is not supported, how can it really much grip? It would not be forced to do work if it has very little pressure on it form not being supported. I know that the lips help if you are not putting your feet down flat, the pressure is at an angle(since the hub is at an angle it actually does support) and the lip works to settle the wheel as it comes down by gripping at an angle. Then as the wheel contacts and fully contacts the floor the lip really becomes inactive. My theory at least.
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I'm wondering about having wider hubs and less lip hanging out unsupported. If the urethane is not supported, how can it really much grip? It would not be forced to do work if it has very little pressure on it form not being supported.


Not the gripping part when rolling straight.



I know that the lips help if you are not putting your feet down flat, the pressure is at an angle(since the hub is at an angle it actually does support) and the lip works to settle the wheel as it comes down by gripping at an angle.


Also helps minimize break way when rolling a non responsive action through the corner. Wheels w/ no lip are essentially gone as soon as the edge of the tire is asked to carry the whole load.



Then as the wheel contacts and fully contacts the floor the lip really becomes inactive. My theory at least.
Pretty much. Although I have never had access to any hubs that are out to 42mm I have rolled plenty that I have trimmed the lip off of. I don't notice much difference, but then my action is always loose enough I really never get on to the lip only.
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Pretty much. Although I have never had access to any hubs that are out to 42mm I have rolled plenty that I have trimmed the lip off of. I don't notice much difference, but then my action is always loose enough I really never get on to the lip only.
My action is pretty much medium, but with the long cushions I use, ramp up is minimized. Adjustments are very seldom done now even when changing rinks. I;m thinking of a wheel with very short lip, but smooth radius, kind of a tapered edge maybe 2mm or so wide only. May have to see if Scott or Hebegb would build my custom set. No pigment costs more so, I'm going to wait a little longer. My funds are going elsewhere for now.
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My hubs are 38mm wide and the tyre is 41mm wide.
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My hubs are 38mm wide and the tyre is 41mm wide.
That, is a lot of support! Not ready yet, business is taking all my cash now. Last week business needed 3 drill presses and 2 wood routers. Shopping for a planer now. I like your wheel sizes so I will be in touch when the time comes.
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I was skating at the rink last Sunday and one of my skate buddies showed me his new 80.00 set of wheels. They had silver aluminum hubs and purple low profile wheels that were sticking out past the hub. They were jagged and chipped around the very thin protruding edges.

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Does anyone make a hub which protrudes past the tyre? Or have these wheels been "modified"?
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I was skating at the rink last Sunday and one of my skate buddies showed me his new 80.00 set of wheels. They had silver aluminum hubs and purple low profile wheels that were sticking out past the hub. They were jagged and chipped around the very thin protruding edges.

Depending on the brand he may be able to get them replaced.
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Depending on the brand he may be able to get them replaced.
Zombie wheels are what he told me. A shame you have to throw out a good looking aluminum anodized colored rim as soon as the wheel wears out.
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Zombie wheels are what he told me. A shame you have to throw out a good looking aluminum anodized colored rim as soon as the wheel wears out.
OK what you described originally are not Zombies since all Zombies have black tires and colored hubs.


Zombies can be regrooved. No need to pitch them.
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