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Old March 10th, 2015, 07:20 AM   #1
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Default [VIDEO] 1965 long distance race in Spain

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV5z...ature=youtu.be
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Old March 10th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #2
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what kind of wheels do you suppose they were using outside back then?
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Old March 12th, 2015, 03:34 AM   #3
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wood wheels most probably.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 08:20 AM   #4
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wood wheels most probably.
I don't think so.
Wood whells for track races aren't very adecuate.

I'll question the J.A. Martinez de Gońi, the guy who found the video, and did this race.

Also, that's the place where I live.
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Old March 14th, 2015, 04:53 PM   #5
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Wow, 40k on quads looks painful. Wonder what the time was?
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Old March 15th, 2015, 06:50 PM   #6
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Could be aluminium too, but I bet on wood.

What do you mean "40k on quads looks painful" ?
With wood wheels ?
Cause I did more than 300km in LeMans 24 last year as a solo on quads, it was quite comfortable, actually.
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Old March 16th, 2015, 05:25 PM   #7
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Could be aluminium too, but I bet on wood.

What do you mean "40k on quads looks painful" ?
With wood wheels ?
Cause I did more than 300km in LeMans 24 last year as a solo on quads, it is was quite comfortable, actually.
My comment stems from the fact that quads don't roll as well as inlines and therefor you always have to be putting energy in to keep moving. I wish that wasn't the case since quads are much nicer on the ankles.
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Old March 16th, 2015, 10:04 PM   #8
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Actually, you always have to be putting energy in your skate, that's how you go forward. Being on quads or inlines does not change that fact.

I can follow casuals 4x110 inlines in a paceline with my quads.

Skating never get easier. You just go faster.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 01:50 AM   #9
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40k my knees would be shot from the vibration outdoors. Lol
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Old March 23rd, 2015, 07:09 PM   #10
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40Km in 1 hour 18 minutes is awesome !!!
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Old March 25th, 2015, 02:51 AM   #11
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I did a 10k the other day, and it wasn't bad at all. A lot easier than I thought on quads.

Joriskb what wheel are you using on quads outdoors? Name, duro, size??
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Old March 25th, 2015, 03:21 AM   #12
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For long distance I use Kryptonics classic K 76mm. Duro between 78A and 82A.

Groldan uses Classic K too, in even bigger diameter, up to 85mm.
There are quad skaters using offset longboard wheels reshaped with a lathe. Zombie hawgs 76mm, Abec11 flywheels, Orangatang Ballut (72.mm) for examples.

I have friends using 70mm wheels : Kryptonics Roadrunners (but good luck finding these, this is old stuff now) or RAD glide in 82A for 6hours races (for around 120km). The RAD glide is a good sideset longboard wheel. But they are expensives.


I even have a friend that uses re-shaped inline wheels :
http://rollerquad.net/wp-content/upl...idescente2.jpg

Edit : It seems RAD glide are not as expensive in the US as they are in France. If you have a lathe, I will suggest a good offset big longboard wheels. If you don't, then try to find classic K 76mm, but they might be hard to find. The best easily available, off the shelf, wheels will then be the RAD.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 03:32 AM   #13
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Thanks..
I ordered some zombie hawgs a few days ago. I'm going to narrow them on a lathe. I have read good things about them.
Those blade wheels look super narrow for me.lol
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Old March 25th, 2015, 07:06 AM   #14
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The durometor is very important also, and maybe the hub diameter, the contact patch, and the weight.

I have a set of 86a Zombies, and they don't work well for outdoors. I guess the 80a or 82a Zombies should be perfect. The Zombies has a 42mm Hub. Narrowed to 140mm they are about 140gr per wheel.

The FlyWheels seem even better, but I only tested the 90mm version in 81a durometer narrowed to 30mm width, with about 25mm contact patch (about 183gr per wheel), and I'm very happy with them. The only ones I feel as good as the Kryptonics Classic K. I will use the FlyWheels in a 3h race there is in Spain in a few weeks (3h Ribera, in the Kotarr circuit). The hub is 45mm. The FlyWheels 76mm 81a should be awesome.

The Kryptonics Classic K are one of the best outdoor wheels for sure. I do believe they are 80a. The hub is 38mm. They are a bit heavy.

If you prefer small wheels, the best wheels I tested are the Atom Road Hog 66mm 78a (about 125gr per Wheel, and 40mm width). The hub is 40mm, very big for a 66mm Wheel (I guess this is the reason these wheels are awesome). They work very good, as good as the Kryptonics, but in a bad asphalt 66mm means you will feel almost everything under your wheels. This is the reason I switched to the Kryptonics Classic K (bigger). The Atom Road Hog work very very well in rain or wet asphalt.

I recently ordered a set of Orangatang Kegel 80a narrowed to 43mm (about 189gr per Wheel). I'm waiting for them. I'd like to test them in rain or wet asphalt (this is the reason I ordered a wide Wheel).

There are a lot of options for outdoor wheels, but some times we'll need a lathe, or someone who can customize the wheels. We can choose width, tall, and durometer, to get the best wheels. Note that it depend on each skater, their skating style, weight, personal preferences, and so on... it's dificult to say which wheel is the best... but reading the experiences of all of us, it seems the Kryptonics Classic K, FlyWheels, and Zombies are the winners, in durometer between 78a and 84a.

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Those blade wheels look super narrow for me.lol
Yes, at the beginning, they seems very narrow. However, after skating with them several days, you feel better and faster.

I didnt test those, but I tested a 30mm width wheels with about 25mm contact patch, and I'm starting to feel very good with them.

For example, the crossover is a bit difficult (in my case they are 90mm tall wheels), or when you need to slow down...
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I don't think so.
Wood whells for track races aren't very adecuate.

I'll question the J.A. Martinez de Gońi, the guy who found the video, and did this race.

Also, that's the place where I live.
Yes, very beautiful place ;-) I will go there in September, just to make sure it's as beautiful as always, and to skate again the P2P (my second time), on Quads again, to improve my last year time.

Thanks for the video Eduardo !
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40Km in 1 hour 18 minutes is awesome !!!
Where did you find the time?
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Old March 25th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #18
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Where did you find the time?
It's in the video. The video is in Spanish, my native language, and it says the first skater (Primitivo Asenjo) took 1h 18min to reach the finish line, for a 40Km distance.

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40Km in 1 hour 18 minutes is awesome !!!

That is keeping a great average...



I'm sure I will have many sets of outdoor wheels the more I skate, just like indoor wheels.lol I have been looking at the flywheels too. they seem like a great wheel. I guess I will work my way up in the larger diameter wheels. Im on 64mm now moving to 70mm.
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It's in the video. The video is in Spanish, my native language, and it says the first skater (Primitivo Asenjo) took 1h 18min to reach the finish line, for a 40Km distance.
That makes sense

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30.77 km/h (19.12 mph) Pretty darn good.
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