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Ask DocSk8 (Expert Indoor Skate Building Advice) This forum is different then the other SkateLog forums in that it is not a discussion forum, but rather a place you can ask skate building expert Fred "DocSk8" Benjamin about building and repairing indoor speed, derby, and jamskate quad roller skates. Please start a new thread for each new question.

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Old August 6th, 2014, 10:36 PM   #1
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OK , I finally got a pic for you. Not sure if the toe stop falls out when I'm doing a country toe tap or a jump turn. I don't notice it gone until later. Should that set screw be seriously tightened or would a big locking nut be apropriate, or something I don't know about. Also, will tighting the long screw of a stop in to the boot harm the boot?
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Old August 7th, 2014, 03:43 PM   #2
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First, that item in the stop location in your pic is called a dance plug. It gas one designed purpose and that it to eliminate a toe stop and block up the hole in the plate so the plate does not gouge the rink floor if you accidentally touch the plate to the floor.

I know jam sk8rs do "plug spins" but that part was never intended for that kind of use or actually stopping a sk8r.

Next, you should have no problems having the plug come loose if you tighten the clamp screw properly.

As far as screwing an actual stop shaft into the plate too far?? Yes it will damage the boot if it pushes a up against it. You should have no trouble feeling the toe start to rise and if it is screwed in far enough you will deform the sole.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 05:20 PM   #3
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First, that item in the stop location in your pic is called a dance plug. It gas one designed purpose and that it to eliminate a toe stop and block up the hole in the plate so the plate does not gouge the rink floor if you accidentally touch the plate to the floor.

I know jam sk8rs do "plug spins" but that part was never intended for that kind of use or actually stopping a sk8r.

Next, you should have no problems having the plug come loose if you tighten the clamp screw properly.

As far as screwing an actual stop shaft into the plate too far?? Yes it will damage the boot if it pushes a up against it. You should have no trouble feeling the toe start to rise and if it is screwed in far enough you will deform the sole.
Actually, the dance plug is just in because the toe stop was lost I'm using the literal use of the term " lost" I know where it is but was taken by my boss and he won't give it back).
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Old August 7th, 2014, 08:46 PM   #4
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OK.. There is always the possibility you have what is known as a tolerance stack up. The hole is most likely threaded to the max dimension for the 5/8 thread (or bigger). Then you run into the possibility that the toe stop stem is machined to the minimum spec (or smaller)... That can make the clamp almost impossible to work. Most often a different stop solves the problem.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 09:06 PM   #5
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doc as usual you are right on, those are dance plugs and made of plastic they will only take so much pressure before coming out. if he has a metal toe stop as you know it could be a number of reasons for coming out or loosening.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 09:24 PM   #6
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OK.. There is always the possibility you have what is known as a tolerance stack up. The hole is most likely threaded to the max dimension for the 5/8 thread (or bigger). Then you run into the possibility that the toe stop stem is machined to the minimum spec (or smaller)... That can make the clamp almost impossible to work. Most often a different stop solves the problem.
Perfect! See my last post, one thing is for sure, I'm getting a different stop.
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doc as usual you are right on, those are dance plugs and made of plastic they will only take so much pressure before coming out. if he has a metal toe stop as you know it could be a number of reasons for coming out or loosening.
The dance plugs never hit the ground. I just T-stop. But, I like to have them when I attempt the Waltz-Jump.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 10:07 PM   #8
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Hi Derrick,

Now that Doc Sk8 has solved your "Toe Stop" issue, what the Heck does this mean ??

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I know where it is but was taken by my boss and he won't give it back).
Seems a bit Strange.

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Now that Doc Sk8 has solved your "Toe Stop" issue, what the Heck does this mean ??



Seems a bit Strange.

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