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Old January 26th, 2007, 08:08 AM   #1
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Default FIRS certified track

I represent a group wishing to build a FIRS certified 200 meter track. I need construction plans and specifications to be able to do this. These plans cost a fee of 1,000 Euro for the full plans & specifications, and after it's built there is a certification charge. That's right, they want to gouge us for plans to a $100,000 track so that we can help them build the sport! These construction plans and specifications should be provided to the public free of charge. If anyone has these plans and disagrees with this policy please send me a copy.
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Old January 26th, 2007, 12:32 PM   #2
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Is it the International Roller Sports Federation (FIRS) that wants to charge you 1000 Euros - $1300 USD - for the skating track plans?

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Old January 26th, 2007, 03:47 PM   #3
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FIRS charges for the plans, that is correct.

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Old January 26th, 2007, 04:28 PM   #4
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The price of actual blue prints is very expensive. If I wanted blue prints that I could take to my county to get approval for a 1 car garage would be on the order of $100-$200 (again these are stock plans).
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Old January 26th, 2007, 05:38 PM   #5
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I'm not an engineer, but could some kind of sufficiently detailed specifications be posted on the Web for free downloading by clubs and regional skating organizations?

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Old January 26th, 2007, 05:40 PM   #6
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We arn't building a private track, this is non-profit for public consumption. I can't tell people that I'm going to build something that I don't have the blue prints for. So I should go out and do fundraising for a track plan to a track that may or may not get finnancing. And when FIRS changes the track standard (again) then the plans I have become obsolete, and the track that I built needs expensive alteration. If FIRS cares about building the sport they should give out the blue prints for free, and then if the track gets built they can add that charge to the cost of certification.
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Old January 26th, 2007, 06:07 PM   #7
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Question specs, blueprints, standards

Well - i know nothing about FIRS, but i know a lot about habits of building, specifications and drawings....
(i grew up practically under the drawing table of an architect and i have a technical degree myself)

I suppose that FIRS has a set of specifications or better: a standard that describes their requirements of when a track can be certified.

Standards are most often free or just at the cost of copywork. Otherwise they cant be standard, because one can only standardise if knowledge is public and shared.

Something else is actual building drawings and blueprints. Architects and/or design engineers take lots of time (and hence money) to make them - and generally that investment is not given out freely.
Nevertheless... i have made drawings in the past just as a friends gift. And if i had drawings for my garage, I would not have a problem to post them on the internet for anybody to use. What have i got to loose?

So if you could find a friended other track organisation, maybe they are willing for you to make copies - to see if you can get around all formal hurdles like financing and gouvernmental approval.
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