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Old January 4th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #1
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Default What plate is this?

I have, infact seen many vintage skates my self (most of which are mistakenly 1914 chicagoskates as you know... its just the patent doesnt mean they were made back then)

But this skate caugh my eye today and have never seen anything like it.
I would like to know what they are called , and what year if possible. and If 75 bucks is a reasonable price.

Its a Single action Chicago skate with a ball pivot and a detachable system i have never seen.
It also does NOT have the " patent 1914 " instead " chicago velvet tread roller skate co."






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Old January 4th, 2013, 10:29 PM   #2
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Deleted, didnt notice Doc's forum again.

Please accept my public apology

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Old January 4th, 2013, 10:40 PM   #3
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Well , i restore and fix skates as hobbies so im more curious about what they are than how much they are worth actually
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Old January 4th, 2013, 10:49 PM   #4
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It is exactly what it says it is. A Velvet Tread.



The quick realease is the St. Pierre system. Oddly (or maybe not oddly) the majority of the quick release kits I have seen were installed on Velvet Tread plates.



This used to be a pair of mine. Note: The odd hubs?? Velvet Tread wheels had more tricks than a monkey in a mile of grapevine.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 11:53 PM   #5
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Thanks doc! What time line where these produced? (And yes i have the skates in my hand lol.... Cleaning it right now... I cant help it)
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Old January 5th, 2013, 01:36 AM   #6
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Thanks doc! What time line where these produced? (And yes i have the skates in my hand lol.... Cleaning it right now... I cant help it)
Pat 02304944 from 1942 covers the wheels.. So 1940s is probably a good estimate.
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The boots where betty lytle by hyde but It just said "Lytle styled by hyde" Didn't have "betty"
this might narrow the time :P
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The boots where betty lytle by hyde but It just said "Lytle styled by hyde" Didn't have "betty"
this might narrow the time :P
True, it might, but I don't have any info like that. I don't recollect ever seeing any boots marked that way, but I have not bought all that many either. Besides, the boots and plates do not necessarily come from the same time frame..
Sorry I can't help more.
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Np, thanks again though doc.
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I just got a pair of vintage detachable skate plates, on a 1940s looking Hyde boots. Very cool looking. I figure they're the St Pierre plate, but not finding much on this style at all. Wood wheels.
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I just got a pair of vintage detachable skate plates, on a 1940s looking Hyde boots. Very cool looking. I figure they're the St Pierre plate, but not finding much on this style at all. Wood wheels.

The St Pierre system was used to mount the plates. The plates are typically Chicago brand modified after manufacturing.. I have seen some real hack jobs over the years...

Now I will reminisce about the good ol days before all the SEDS heads found eBay..
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