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Old October 4th, 2006, 09:54 PM   #41
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You guys leave an indelible impression. Thank you for sharing your great day and giving such an impressive skating venue a personal face. It's like little bits of A2A glimmer streaming all over the world.
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Old October 5th, 2006, 02:12 AM   #42
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Speedy, your account blows me away. Long ago "going the extra mile" was given as a model for making life meaningful and when you see it in action it's a beautiful and inspiring thing. Thanks!

I'm curious about how the elite skaters handled being led on a "wild goose chase." What were they saying? Did it seriously alter the outcome? I read that wrong directions did so for the Master Pro's at the last Long Beach. I saw pictures of Eddy smiling and hugging the winner and others after the race. Is that the way the others handled it?

Jessica, John J, Jon B and Napalm: You did a lot of hill training in Florida this year. Did it help you in the A2A and if so, how?

Jessica, any manufactuer's sponsorship deals forthcoming? Speed team offers? You are awesome gal! Keep it up.

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Old October 5th, 2006, 02:19 PM   #43
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The GUPPY and the SHARK



Thanks for the welcome home. After a 6 day excursion we are now settled back into the homestead, Napalm back to work today, my turn tonight. We do both finally have our bodies back, but it has been a very "tender" recovery. Not debilitating, but certainly not ignorable. We walked Stone Mountain the day after the event, stayed on the 3rd floor of the hotel and took the stairs, and walked where ever we could which helped to keep the muscles "flowing?", but man did they want to resist. Congratulations to all of my fellow completers, and the attempt-ers who may have been overwhelmed. It is certainly understandable. I wouldn't condemn anyone who tried and failed to complete, it is a daunting task. Like Speedy said "the hills don't end". After awhile it didn't have such a devastating effect on your spirit, because you already knew it was coming, but for awhile you could feel your heart sink everytime you slugged your way up a rise, made a left hand turn, and there looming before you was another incline. I think by the end of the run if you had made a crest and saw Everest in front of you it would have had minimal effect. Jessica is.........? What do you say?~! Dauntless. Her resolve is inspiriing. She deserves everything she gets, it's going to be awesome to watch her progress over the next couple of years. The competition doesn't stand a chance. The hill training is absolutely critical, and having done what we've done this year in preparation Napalm and I are both aware that we will have to do MORE next year if WE go back. Napalm will definitely go back. She's infected. Here's how it sliced.
We ultimately decided not to hang back on the start out, there were bunches of people who were VERY skittish about downhills, Friday nights pre-race skate made you aware of that (I personally believe all first timers should make every effort to partake in the Friday night skate, it's a great way to get an idea of what's coming), so we took off a little more aggressively than we would have originally considered knowing the magnitude of the race that lied before us. This was of course still well behind our "elitist" friends. Even as it was the bunch up going around the first corner at the bottom of a descent was hairy. Once out onto the open road we fell into stride and marched. We just kept moving ahead till we were in the clear, caught up to a pack, rode it and evaluated it's potential, then skated on past looking for a little more tempo. We finally caught onto a group that was comprised mostly of 38 miler's and ran with them nearly to their finish. They had been advising us to slow it down a bit if we had intentions of finishing, the first 35 miles had us pretty close to 15mph average. It was during that first stretch that I learned my downhill limitation. We hit 39.9mph as a max for the run (me anyway) and at that speed I would have rather been standing on the thin side of a 2x4 30 feet in the air. My rails were shaking something fierce and I was not at all pleased with myself, on the level ground I was still pulling hard but opted not to get myself in the midst of a pack for any of the faster downhills from the 38 mile point on, I took Silver Hill solo and rode the brake pretty hard. Since I have not been able to hit more than about 32 on downhills here I'm not sure what I'm going to do to gain stability/confidence for the higher speeds. By mile 50 we had dropped our average down to mid 13's and I was no longer fresh. We had cruised right past the first two check points and finally stopped at a convenience store, I think it was just before check point 3. We had inadvertantly missed one of the turn arrows and took a 1 mile plus detour down to an unmarked intersection. No option but to turn back and find our mistake, adding a little over 2 miles to our excursion. At the convenience store we slammed green tea and Powerade and I took off my right skate for the first time, nagging pressure just below the pinky toe. Napalm was a flower in a garden. From there on it only got worse. Dev Knoll said when he saw us it didn't look like we were happy with each other, sorry for that conveyance. I love my wife, she loves me - BUT we are nowhere near the same people. She is an exhorter, she is vivacious, she is enthusiastic. I'm grumpy. (Remember a former post about Bitchy, Pissy and Whiney?) Somewhere along the line my Garmin numbers got messed up, we made stops that it didn't get shut down for, and we made runs it didn't get turned on for. I believe it was at CP 4 we met up with John J. and I was already pretty deep into my BPW mode (see above). Napalm was a wellspring springing forth sweet waters of encouragement. When I'm reaching my physical limit and gleaning the winnowings for scraps of missed grain I cannot be encouraged, I don't work like that. My drive is intestinal fortitude, not "encouragement". When the Bluebird of paradise flys to my window and warbles a sweet song in my ear, I pull out a .45 and blow it away. So, Renee is tap dancing along singing songs and grinning while I'm drinking piss. That's just us, and I am exceedingly happy for her accomplishment. We left CP 4 with John J., "Detroit", Louie, and Michele, all stragglers hoping not to run the rest on there own. Up to CP 5 I was still able to assist in pulling, but after that I was the principle wheel suck. I couldn't go but about 5 miles without having to take my right skate off, my head was pounding and my form was "fer ****". Speedy had dialogued me once before about needing to skate until your form went in the toilet, I had been of the mind that when the form left, so did I. My form was definitely in the toilet. What amazed me was that it was so far gone I couldn't even get it back, I was pronating like a dog and had no stride left, just a shuffle. Downtown Atlanta absolutely sucked. We kept hopping between side walk and street, and you had no idea which way to go until you got there. I didn't give a crap where we were going anymore, I was just following the idiot's (a loving expression) in front of me. By the time we got within view of the finsih line, all became evident. Napalm is accustomed to my "perking" up at the tail end, digging deep and driving like a freight train for the finish, she was nearly skating backwards in front of me at about 4 mph and I couldn't catch up. All indications were that I was one of Jerry's kids out for a first attempt on skates. We slapped hands with Eddie and I took to the lawn. If you get to see some of the finish line photo's that were taken, everybody else was still in skates, I tore mine off my feet as soon as I hit the grass. Congrats to all of my finishing paceline comrades, and forum friends, thanks for tolerating me, and thanks for allowing me to ride your draft, maybe someday I'll be able to return the favor. The mile stats I'll post probably on the Training Log when I get a chance, we do have a new PB mile of 2:13 with an average speed of 27.1mph, our prior personal record having been broken at least 6 times on the event. Napalm will get a new pair of boots as a result, Simmons speedboots we're hoping, Jon will continue to slog around in his Rad's until he learns to skate. Praise God, NO real falls, no ulcerations, no heart attack. Speedy recovery to Conical(sp?) from Washington who went home with a broken collarbone. Nice to have met Dev and NWGlenn, congrats to both of you as well. Back to norm. Pictures forthcoming. JB
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Old October 5th, 2006, 02:36 PM   #44
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Haha - great report, I really enjoyed reading it.

I just remembered something else this morning. At some point while out in the middle of nowhere, an older guy sitting in a rocker on his front porch shouted out, "where y'all headed?" Everyone chimed in, "ATLANTA!" It was just one of those defining moments, where I thought, wow, I'm really doing this, and it's amazing. These people I'm surrounded by are incredible, and I can't think of any place I'd rather be.

I am in awe of every person that made the decision to do this, whether they finished first, last, or DNF. I feel so lucky to be part of it. You guys are going to have to listen to me gush about A2A for at least a couple more weeks.
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Old October 5th, 2006, 03:00 PM   #45
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Jon - Great report! Thanks for sharing that. It is so good that I need to rethink my goals for next year. As I reread your post and the other stories I am becoming more impressed and envious of your accomplishments. Congrats and thanks again for sharing!
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Old October 5th, 2006, 03:38 PM   #46
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I've been wanting to answer some of the questions:

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Jessica, I am in awe of your abilities! I know I can't keep up with you on our trails down here. I'm just wondering where you found the hills to train for Atlanta. Or did you find another way to train the legs to endure on Sunday?

Great job!

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P.S., I'm looking for any tips you can provide so I can move up from my 52-mile finish to the 87-miler next year.
Don - Minneola is it! Well, that and the Suncoast Trail That's where we spent most of our time, but it was every weekend. It was hard to find the time but I made sure to make a way. If you want to move up in mileage, come out with us next year. I know it can be a pain in the butt to travel all over Florida, but believe me, it's worth it. We were totally ready for this race.

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Speedy, Jess: where you on your own too after you left the chipseal, and turned down the concrete ramp into Atlanta proper? Or did they just give an escort to the fast folks, and the rest of us should have practiced playing in traffic?
Dev, honestly at that point I don't really remember. I know there were a couple of places that were unmonitored and we just had to watch ourselves.

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My question for Speedy, Gless, Jessica, Dev and other 87 mile finishers is how do you tell when pushing through the pain is a good thing....or maybe it's time to look for the SAG???? Or is that an option?
I'm with speedy on this one - I wouldn't stop unless I was completely unable to. I would deal with the pain later

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Jessica, John J, Jon B and Napalm: You did a lot of hill training in Florida this year. Did it help you in the A2A and if so, how?

Jessica, any manufactuer's sponsorship deals forthcoming? Speed team offers? You are awesome gal! Keep it up.

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Ken, like I said before, you GOTTA do the training. Skating on flatland is fine and dandy but you will never be prepared not only for climbing, but for the kind of speed you're going to have to deal with going downhill. There aren't any hills here that are capable of getting us to that speed, but at least we were able to get a taste of what we would be facing. Are you thinking about doing it next year? DO IT DO IT

I'm on a team - we get discounts on bearings and other stuff. I just wish I didn't look like such a goofball in the uniform
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Old October 5th, 2006, 03:58 PM   #47
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Quote from Jon B that all back-of -the-packers can relate to....


"All indications were that I was one of Jerry's kids out for a first attempt on skates."

Great report Jon. I'd be shaking at 40 mph too.
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Old October 5th, 2006, 04:25 PM   #48
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Dev, honestly at that point I don't really remember. I know there were a couple of places that were unmonitored and we just had to watch ourselves.
We had police every where that they ever have them. Bottom of the ramp, approaching the sidewalk (2) and every light between little 5-points and the park had at least one.

I have no complaints on the level of police.

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you dont look like a goofball.
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Old October 5th, 2006, 04:29 PM   #49
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We were flying low on the descents. I have to say that I felt no probs with the 5x90 and on the descents it was as stable as you could want. NOW, on the other hand, on Silver hill I did get a little shimmy, but I attribute that to leg fatigue more than anything else. I would love to know what we were doing on silver hill. I hit 35+ regularly on our hills and we were going WAY faster than that.
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Old October 5th, 2006, 04:53 PM   #50
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...because I feel like I let some people down in a way
not in my eyes...all I am is impressed ...trust me I understand that feeling...but I think you kept your wits about you when things got confusing and stayed focused on skating your ass off...you did nothing that I did not WANT to see you do

PS besides I'm the one who said 'Speedy's in a group and will catch" when we took off...
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Old October 5th, 2006, 07:58 PM   #52
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First off CONGRATS Jessica on an awesome performance. I am so proud of you. Congrats to Speedy, Gless, Luke and John A. I keep saying that if you finish the 87 miles you have done something that a 52 time world champion and Olympic champion has never completed. That's right Chad Hedrick tried A2A once and DNF'd.

As far as my A2A is was crappy both literally and figuratively. It all started Saturday morning and the diarrhea started and wouldn't stop. I tried over dosing on Imodium AD and that didn't work. I hoped that on Sunday morning it would be better but it wasn't. I warmed up by running back and forth to the bathroom at the Classic Center. So can you say dehydrated before the start?

Now of course I had to be in the front pack when it missed the turn .

A group of US now took off trying to make up for lost time. Passing all kinds of people left and right a lot of them just taking there time like a leisurely Sunday drive. I would envy them later. We passed Speedy and the pace line that had Jess, Gless, Luke and John A. But after about 15 to 20 miles of this pace I had to cut back, I had no fuel in me to keep it up, although I was eating and drinking more than at any other A2A Iíve done.

I ended up in a large pack of about 30 to 40 skaters and as we went down one hill some guys at the front decided to t-stop and then spread out across the road . So now the guys in the Back who are all in a tuck position speeding down the hill slam in to these guys and about 10 to 15 ended up crashing. Never figured out why they were t-stopping .

Like Jessica said her and Speedy caught up to me before the RR tracks and I tried to hang on but it was a no go. I crawled up to and down Silver Hill and hit check point 5 and decided to take a break. Filled up with cold water and iced my head and neck, ate some oranges and bananas; untied my boots to get some circulation back in the toes and now I know why I was having problems with my right boot. The tongue had slipped all the way to the right and down around the ankle bone .

A little while later Luke and John A came along and I joined up with them and we finished together.

Now to add insult to injury, I always skate from Piedmont Park to the Wyndam Hotel which is just a few blocks away and up a little hill pulling my suite case behind me. Jessica and Luke started out with me and we were talking and having fun. We split when we left the park and I headed up this little hill, but it seemed harder than usual, a lot harder. About three quarters of the way I had to stop at a red light and I looked at the wheels on my suit case and one of them was broken and was rubbing against the case and at times not turning at all .

THIS WAS JUST NOT MY DAY!!!!

Looks like I'll have to wait untill next year to break the 5 hour mark.

Ok my whining is over now and I'm going to go and have some cheese.
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Old October 5th, 2006, 09:32 PM   #53
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Rough day Lenny, sorry to hear it, but congrats on a decent finish despite adversity. One of the guys who pretty much skated along "with" our rag tag paceline did the whole thing.........backwards. Downhills and all, but - we were to slow for him. He finished ahead of us. JB.
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Old October 6th, 2006, 12:46 AM   #54
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Well..... I wished I had enough time to prepare for it. I guess 6 months just aren't enough, for me. It's a tough decision for me to give up on something I had spent so much time training for it, but I never regret about it. I am glad that I made the right decision (not to go) because my skating was in it's worst shape weeks around September and October. I struggled to finish at Northshore, so there's no way I could even do the 38-miler. And I had a massive muscle pain during the 66 mile skate (with Jess, JonB, Napalm and JohnJ). Plus, I intend to keep a "blood-free" race season this year. I haven't fallen during races this year so fair, (only after and before a race).

I couldn't make any promise, but I will try my best to get ready for next year. But I will not do it if I still have doubt going downhill one month before the event, next year. I want to do it well the first time.

Yeah, now almost everyone I know had done it, and I am the only one who hasn't. It's a hard feeling to swallow, but I will have to train hard regardless how difficult it is. Yes, I am not a "natural" skater. It takes me longer to learn simple (which takes other little time or no) things. But I will take my time to do, no matter how long it takes, as long as I reach the goal eventually.

Also got my training plan for the next 2 seasons sorted out. Next year's approach will be drastically different than this year's. Will reveal as soon as the race season is over.
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I ended up in a large pack of about 30 to 40 skaters and as we went down one hill some guys at the front decided to t-stop and then spread out across the road . So now the guys in the Back who are all in a tuck position speeding down the hill slam in to these guys and about 10 to 15 ended up crashing. Never figured out why they were t-stopping .
That sounds EXACTLY like where I scored my road rash!!!

Hey, were we in the same crash???!! Before CP1? Mile 7-12 or so? Boy down complaining of skate-to-the-manhood?

If so, I was near the back, in the black skinsuit, with the bloody knees....
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Buzz,
I agree with Dev Gnoll, maybe you should shake up your routine. I am just going to skate indoors until April or March. I don't enjoy going around in an oval over and over but it seems to really help some of the skaters around here. They are accomplished and they say that it helps them with their outdoor races. Good luck!
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Isn't that what got Mark Foley in trouble? Although I'm sure that Mark Foley isn't a skater!
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We had police every where that they ever have them. Bottom of the ramp, approaching the sidewalk (2) and every light between little 5-points and the park had at least one.

I have no complaints on the level of police.
Well, by the time I got there the only police was at that last road into the park, and he was only keeping cars out of the park, not helping us through the light at the end of the downhill.

From the ramp to the park was a full-up highly technical cityskate in actively hostile traffic. I swear a few of them were AIMING for me. I managed to have quite a long discussion on comparative religion while waiting for a big enough break in traffic to hop the sidewalk. Quite challenging after 84 or so miles for someone who only trained on rural roads. Easily do-able, but you might as well forget about time.

Well, maybe next time I will be fast enough to get there while the police are still there.


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But I will not do it if I still have doubt going downhill one month before the event, next year. I want to do it well the first time.
Buzz, don't let the downhills keep you from skating this event. I was a little nervous about the downhills but only slowed down on one hill the whole way. Of course, I only did the 52 mile race but still, there are a lot of hills and to only slow down on one . . . you can do this event.


And Jess, I will take you up on your offer to train together next year when I am able to get with you guys. I'm already envisioning some 20 up-and-downs per workout on the major Minneola Trail.

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While I admire all you that have done it, the A2A has never been on my radar. My goal is a bit less dareing and streneous but challenging none the less. I dream of skating so efficiently that I'll be doing the 2015 Disney marathon below my arobic threshold, while breathing through my nose and whistling the "Ode to Joy", and finish in under 1:45. I think that will wrap up my inline experience very nicely thank you. Oh, and I'll bore everyone that I can with tales of my galent friends who bested the hills of A2A in 2006 and went on to greater glory.

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