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Old September 3rd, 2013, 08:31 PM   #1
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Hi all SK8ers !!

Since SA bushing market is so small,,,
,,,doing research I found these :

RIPTIDE APS barrell bushings with 19 mm tall...
85a90a95a

my quad speed trucks wears SA bushings of almost 20 mm tall

Wondering....Will they work as good as :
SA SG Bushing??
or other SA bushings brands that are not anymore in the market??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Venom-Ronin-...-/271198321226

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Old September 3rd, 2013, 09:13 PM   #2
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How heavy of a skater are you? -- 90A is rather firm for fully working the action of the action unless you weigh ~180+ pounds

I prefer a free action with 78-82A cushions. What plates/trucks will you be using these? PIC?

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Old September 3rd, 2013, 09:27 PM   #3
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Hi all SK8ers !!

Since SA bushing market is so small,,,
,,,doing research I found these :

RIPTIDE APS barrell bushings with 19 mm tall...
85a90a95a

my quad speed trucks wears SA bushing, of almost 20 mm

Wondering....Will they work as good as :
SA SG Bushing??
or other SA bushings brands that are not anymore in the market??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Venom-Ronin-...-/271198321226
I checked that ebay link and then went to that bushings website. Those babies go all the way down to 70a, wow. Super soft. I say give em a shot. I`d prolly order from Riptide directly and maybe go with a softer duro than whats in the ebay link.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 09:44 PM   #5
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They advice to use harder durometer that what you may choose
,,so if you go for 90a get the 95a reddddd!!!

Would like green ones back!!! 97.5 wow! and reds 95 on front
or both reds

Im gonna check one of the distributors in europe this week.....
Ware house is in town


also my SA Bushings r still in good condition... anyhow...
Iīd like to give it a colorful try !

What are the tall size from your SA bushings ???


mines are 20mm

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They advice to use harder durometer that what you may choose
,,so if you go for 90a get the 95a reddddd!!!

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Just wondering what will be the exact size for a SG SA bushing ??
or
What are the tall size from your SA bushings ???


mines are almost 20mm .... Lost brand !!
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The taller than 1/2" SG SA cushions are 7/8" OD and your plates look like either 25mm or 1" OD.

With all the plate deck height these plates have, they could make some killer outdoor plates that look like they could handle 76+mm wheels like Zombie Hawgs.

I would assume the suggestion for firmer than normal cushions is from the extra leverage over the action that the taller deck height gives you.

I have this problem with my avatar PIC "franken"-plates, where Panther trucks on Nova plates gives very tall deck height and more leverage for working the action. I normally use flat washers (or nothing) in place of retainers, but on this setup, I needed a full lip upper retainer to help neutralize all the extra leverage.

You may find that the Roll Line cushions could work if their OD is a match, since they are taller than SUre Grip DA Super Cushions.
You can also use nylon washers above retainer to substitute for the missing height of shorter cushions

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The taller than 1/2" SG SA cushions are 7.8" OD and your plates look like either 25mm or 1" OD.

With all the plate deck height these plates have, they could make some killer outdoor plates that look like they could handle 76+mm wheels like Zombie Hawgs.


I would assume the suggestion for firmer than normal cushions is from the extra leverage over the action that the taller deck height gives you.


I have this problem with my avatar PIC "franken"-plates, where Panther trucks on Nova plates gives very tall deck height and more leverage for working the action. I normally use flat washers (or nothing) in place of retainers, but on this setup, I needed a full lip upper retainer to help neutralize all the extra leverage.

You may find that the Roll Line cushions could work if their OD is a match, since they are taller than SUre Grip DA Super Cushions.
You can also use nylon washers above retainer to substitute for the missing height of shorter cushions


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I use a washer here or there to make up where the bushing may be a tad short. I`d play with the different duros available to find what suits ya. I wouldn`t alter that skate any if I could help it. That looks to be an awesome plate and I think a urethane bushing of your choice duro will awaken it.. I like the offerings that Riptide has, may even try some myself.
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Old September 4th, 2013, 12:30 AM   #9
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I went to check the bushings at the long board store in town...
Riptide & Reflex ..both brands had taller size ..18,8 & 19 respectively

Riptide looks like lots of rebound,
the formula has some special element added to keep
the bushing more organic for years..
and Reflex was more like an standard bushing in material.


so I found my solution ..since I donīt want to add or modify the bushing space how they were build originally on these.
Iīll get two standard size barrels and sand each one or cut them proportionally...with a total tallness of 20mm as the originals ...
I like to respect the exact space for the bushing

Itīs been also the style of many speed skaters back in the late 70īs and,
who choose to have SA during the 80īs.... and did this sanded DA technique....I remember those at the rink,,, with no glue

I will choose 86a light orange ( and maybe 89 for my back trucks )

Check the rainbow:

http://www.sk8trip.com/mm5/merchant....de=accessories

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