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Old August 24th, 2017, 09:25 PM   #1
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I'm heading to Grand Forks for the first time and wondering what wheels to bring. Are the roads and river trail pretty smooth? If it rains... how slick do they become? If they are just wet (not constant rain) would Black Magic 125 be OK or should I swap to 110 storm surge? Since I'm 195 lbs I go with xxf.

The forecast I see indicates 60 deg, 50% chance of precipitation 7am-9am. Does that sound about right?
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I'm heading to Grand Forks for the first time and wondering what wheels to bring. Are the roads and river trail pretty smooth? If it rains... how slick do they become? If they are just wet (not constant rain) would Black Magic 125 be OK or should I swap to 110 storm surge? Since I'm 195 lbs I go with xxf.

The forecast I see indicates 60 deg, 50% chance of precipitation 7am-9am. Does that sound about right?
It's been a couple of years so check for any reports of repaving.

The first long stretch is flat and straight as an arrow but noticeably rough. There was a strong tailwind that year and it was a bit unnerving going so fast on such choppy pavement.

The trail section is very smooth but also hilly and windy. The hills aren't big but the trail is narrow and you go up and down a lot.

Once you go back on the road, it is a mix of smooth and rough pavement all the way in. There is a 90 degree turn toward the finish line that has some pavement gaps.

If there is high probability of rain, I would not use XXF. I used 110mm Black Magic XXF's during last year's wet Duluth. I had a lot of trouble getting power to the pavement. I fell off the A1 lead pack at the Mansions for that exact reason: A gap opened up and despite having the power in my legs, I could not get to the pavement and they got away. Your mileage may vary, of course. I weigh in around 155.

I'm going back to XF for this year's Duluth, same as I used in Grand Forks in 2015. That race prompted me to go XXF because with the high temperatures that year, the XF's felt softer than optimal.
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thx for the info about surface conditions!

as of Friday AM the forecast I see for 7am start is 57 deg, 30% chance of precip with 5mph breeze from east.

man... I've forgotten how far away North Dakota is!
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thx for the info about surface conditions!

as of Friday AM the forecast I see for 7am start is 57 deg, 30% chance of precip with 5mph breeze from east.

man... I've forgotten how far away North Dakota is!
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thx B... gonna need it! You coming?

While Bont's tag line is "Lighter, Stronger, Faster"... mine is "Older, Fatter, Slower"

I don't see any water stations marked on the course map. Do they have them, and if so, how frequent? I sweat an awful lot, even under cool conditions. The ongoing joke is that I can work up a sweat just eating breakfast! I'm bringing my water bottle & holster just in case.
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thx B... gonna need it! You coming?

While Bont's tag line is "Lighter, Stronger, Faster"... mine is "Older, Fatter, Slower"

I don't see any water stations marked on the course map. Do they have them, and if so, how frequent? I sweat an awful lot, even under cool conditions. The ongoing joke is that I can work up a sweat just eating breakfast! I'm bringing my water bottle & holster just in case.
I think there are at least a couple of water stations before the trail section. Since I always bring my own, I don't pay much attention. Some photos off the main page show water stops but nothing is specified of where they are.
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hey ese002...

thx for feedback about course. conditions were cool overcast with almost no wind. all roads & trails bone dry. paving was very smooth and fast for the most part (due to some recent resurfacing?). there was one stretch of chip & seal that was tolerable. at least three water stations at reasonable spots.

the 125 black magic xxf rolled really well and I think were a good choice for me. Wish I could have held onto the lead rec pack to at least half... but just didn't have it in the legs.

interesting bits... avg pace for 1st 8 miles was 3:30 per mile. pace from mile 5 to mile 6 was 2:51!
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