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Old June 24th, 2013, 11:30 PM   #1
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Does anyone have an indication of what 'last year's time' that will be used for deciding if a Rec/Fit skater gets wave A or B?
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Old June 25th, 2013, 02:28 AM   #2
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From the NSIM website:

Advanced Wave A1 1:12:15-1:17:43
Wave A2 1:17:44-1:21:11
Wave B1 1:21:12-1:24:49
Wave B2 1:24:50-1:28:04

Recreation Wave 1 1:28:05-1:35:58
Wave 2 1:35:59-1:44:43
Wave 3 1:44:44-1:51:24
Wave 4 1:51:25-1:59:22
Wave 5 1:59:23-2:15:37
Wave 6 2:15:38-3:30:00
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Old June 25th, 2013, 02:29 AM   #3
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http://northshoreinline.com/events/marathon/

They have wave placement tables based on both 2011 and 2012 times.
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Old June 25th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #4
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well, DUH... how did I not find that? I went looking but evidently didn't go far enough. Thanks a bunch!

not that Rec/Fit matters to me since I'm actually Pro Open!

well, a guy can dream, right? actually, I find myself 4 seconds shy of making B1. Now I've got something to shoot for.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 07:13 AM   #5
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Some of those times are pretty good, at the Australian National Championships I did about 1:35 in the junior division. My time wasn't that great because there was only three people skating in my race, I didn't do my best because I was working with a teammate and he wouldn't lead so we lost about ten minutes and in the end I still didn't win because my teammate got to rest for a while.
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 02:27 AM   #6
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Have you skated Napa and NSIM? I know North Shore is a fast course; but I don't know what wave I should register. I think I'm between B2 and Wave 1... but not sure. What was your time in Napa vs NSIM?
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 06:23 AM   #7
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Have you skated Napa and NSIM? I know North Shore is a fast course; but I don't know what wave I should register. I think I'm between B2 and Wave 1... but not sure. What was your time in Napa vs NSIM?
You can probably knock 10-15 minutes off your Napa time.

My Napa/Duluth times were:

2008: my Napa time was 1:28. Duluth was 1:14
2007: Napa: 1:37, Duluth: 1:32 (very cold that year)
2006: Napa: 1:36, Duluth: 1:27 (rain)

Now, I have heard that the pavement has deteriorated since I last raced Duluth. However, 2012 results seem very similar to 2007. The big difference at Duluth is the huge pace lines. You mentioned skating alone at Napa. This won't happen at Duluth.
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 04:40 AM   #8
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Thanks for the Napa/NSIM time comparison. This gives me a good starting point to sign up for the wave that closely matches my speed. Looking forward to it!!
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Old July 26th, 2013, 02:31 PM   #9
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POW, you could probably swing at least wave B1. I signed up for wave A2, which probably wasn't smart. I guess we will see as we have a bout 5 weeks to train for the race. I am going to make it this year, at the moment I do not have any schedule conflicts.
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Old August 12th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #10
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as of 8-12-2013

1539 total participants, 1342 inline, 197 other

elite/advanced men 74
elite women 9

..................... 2012 times
A1 47......... 1:12:15-1:17:43
A2 52......... 1:17:44-1:21:11

B1 42......... 1:21:12-1:24:49
B2 51......... 1:24:50-1:28:04

w1 134....... 1:28:05-1:35:58
w2 153....... 1:35:59-1:44:43
w3 157....... 1:44:44-1:51:24
w4 151....... 1:51:25-1:59:22
w5 145....... 1:59:23-2:15:37
w6 119....... 2:15:38-3:30:00

combined 19
inline half 189

rollerski 34
wheels-off half 79
tunnel run 10k 84
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Old August 13th, 2013, 02:35 AM   #11
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I really want to skate this race at least once, but as a quad skater, I was hoping to see more fellow quad-ers rolling it.

At my estimated 55-60min half marathon pace (skating alone), I am thinking I could do ~2:10 marathon time. Though I am a fast pace outdoor quad skater, I never seem to have enough other inline skaters rolling at near my pace, to be able to group together with into a pace line more than 2 or 3, and those never last from uneven pace discipline

I was hoping that the size of the Northshore race would perhaps help with this issue. No doubt a group of 3-5 skaters in a decent pace line could all help each other to improve their times, especially if there is a headwind, but I remain uncertain whether such an outcome would be likely, even with 1500+ participants.

Do they run both the full marathon and the half marathon together, with both races starting at the same time, and those in the half just peeling of to finish at the mid point?

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Old August 13th, 2013, 03:20 AM   #12
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The half marathon has a different start location but the same finish. As I understand it, you even have the option to finish the half marathon, get on a bus to the full start, and do a full marathon as well. That's the "Combined" option.

That would be Wave 5. I've never skated in that category at Duluth but my experience coming up the ranks at other races is that skaters at that level usually lack pack skating skills. There are exceptions, of course, so there might enough to get those people together.
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skaters at that level usually lack pack skating skills
right on target... but it is possible to to chat up folks and throw in together into ad hoc groups for a while now and then.
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Old August 13th, 2013, 04:21 AM   #14
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Dillo, last year's Northshore was my 1st marathon. My goal was 2:10 and I skated it in 1:55. Believe me, you will never be alone. The problem with drafting in that level is the high cadence/light push style of most skaters. I refuse to skate like that so it's a problem finding lower cadence/heavy push skaters that I can get close to and get a decent draft from. There are very few draft lines at that level and it's usually 2-4 friends skating together.

It's not all bad though. Because they skate in such an upright position, I can still get some draft from the big ones while staying just behind enough to keep from tripping them up. When they start slowing down, I go around and skate until I find another one. Then another and another. Also I have found that if there's a headwind, I don't need to get up close to feel a real benefit from the draft.

Yes, you should skate Northshore at least once, it's quite an experience. Good luck if you do.
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Dillo, last year's Northshore was my 1st marathon. My goal was 2:10 and I skated it in 1:55. Believe me, you will never be alone. The problem with drafting in that level is the high cadence/light push style of most skaters. I refuse to skate like that so it's a problem finding lower cadence/heavy push skaters that I can get close to and get a decent draft from. There are very few draft lines at that level and it's usually 2-4 friends skating together.

It's not all bad though. Because they skate in such an upright position, I can still get some draft from the big ones while staying just behind enough to keep from tripping them up. When they start slowing down, I go around and skate until I find another one. Then another and another. Also I have found that if there's a headwind, I don't need to get up close to feel a real benefit from the draft.

Yes, you should skate Northshore at least once, it's quite an experience. Good luck if you do.

I know exactly what you are describing with the poor technique skaters being the majority of those inliners that I can match pace with, but the ones with decent technique and cadence all leave me behind too easily.

At least from what you are saying, the numbers still would work in my favor, so I am really going to try and get there this year. Thanks.

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Old August 14th, 2013, 05:35 PM   #16
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Men as of 8-12

Elite Open.................13
Elite Masters 30-39......5
Elite Masters 40-49.....15
Elite Masters 50+........32
Advanced Veteran 60+..9
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Elite Open.................13
Elite Masters 30-39......5
Elite Masters 40-49.....15
Elite Masters 50+........32
Advanced Veteran 60+..9
Only 13 guys in the Open? God...I'm going to die...
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Just to add to your pain, Chris, you've got a couple Powerslide world team guys in the Elite Open race, too (Scott Arlidge and Felix Rijhnen). So, best of luck with that . I'm skating with the 30-39 group which only has 5 guys right now. I basically plan to get dropped by Ron and Brian Oswald a few miles in and skate the rest of it alone. Or at least hook up with Wave A when they come by.... Or we can hope for a headwind so that speeds stay down and drafting becomes more important.

This could be a tough race.
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Just to add to your pain, Chris, you've got a couple Powerslide world team guys in the Elite Open race, too (Scott Arlidge and Felix Rijhnen).
Yikes.
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as of 8-12

Elite Open Women / Masters 40+

Conklin Cheryl..........MB.....CA
Echardour Morgane...ON.....CA
Marsolek Stacie........MN
McKey Morgan..........MI
Rose Patricia............CA
Rumpus Katharina...............DE
Schimek Laethisia...............DE
Wong Candy............ON.....CA
Wright Jessica..........FL

Elite Open Men

Arlidge Scott....................DE
Doucet Peter...........ON.....CA
Heidelberger Joseph...MN
Lambert Travis.........MN
Lomen Chris.............MN
McKey Nick..............MI
Meisinger Steve........IL
Mejia Luis Carlos...............CO
Pauley Jesse............ON.....CA
Rijhnen Felix......................DE
Sarmiento David.......MN
Shenko John............IL
Williams Morgan........ON.....CA

Elite Masters Men 30-39

Darby Casey............IL
Larson Dale..............MN
Marfori Ron..............MN
Oswald Brian............VA
Velander Lance.........MN

Elite Masters Men 40-49

Blank Gary...............VA
Bovitz Brent.............MN
Cassube Richard.......SC
chrisler ryan.............KS
crysdale John...........CA
Gugiu Gabriel............CA
Kaufman Larry..........IL
Kohn Jeffrey............TX
Lightwood Hal..........ON.....CA
Mackowski Chris.......TX
Motta Robert...........CA
Olson Michael...........WI
Overby Daniel...........MN
Schneider Todd........MN
Svir Keith................MN

Elite Masters Men 50+

Abrahamson Rick.......MN
ashton thomas.........MN
Baker Barry..............WA
Callas Bill.................MN
Carrigan Greg...........MB.....CA
carvell cale..............IL
Charbonneau John.....MA
Cole Thomas............MI
Collins Daniel............MN
Czaczkowski Richard..ON.....CA
DeZellar Mike...........MN
Field William.............ON.....CA
Garrett John............WI
GAYLE Herb.............ON.....CA
Jennik Peter.............WI
Johnson Gary...........MN
Landucci Randy........MN
Langley Walter.........WA
Larios Stephen.........TN
Lawler David............MB.....CA
ohearn james...........MN
Plett Randy..............MB.....CA
Reichel Floyd............MB.....CA
Rice Craig W............FL
Rudnicki Stephen......MN
Schulte John............MN
sherwin john............IL
swan david..............MN
Van Duyne Alexander.MI
vesterstein kirk.........MN
Westin Ovid.............MN
wussler jack.............MN

Advanced Veteran Men 60+

Brumm Russell..........WI
Holm Terry..............MN
Lederle Frank...........MN
Lee Seongbok..........TX
Marcosson Alan........OH
McLinn John.............IL
Rounds George.........MN
Rowe R Lynn............WI
Stroud Robert..........WI
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