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Ask DocSk8 (Expert Indoor Skate Building Advice) This forum is different then the other SkateLog forums in that it is not a discussion forum, but rather a place you can ask skate building expert Fred "DocSk8" Benjamin about building and repairing indoor speed, derby, and jamskate quad roller skates. Please start a new thread for each new question.

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Old February 21st, 2017, 06:12 PM   #1
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Hi Doc,

Do you know if it is possible to press/pull/unscrew the factory axle on a Sunlite truck and replace it with a longer axle?

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Old February 21st, 2017, 11:27 PM   #2
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Default UH.....

Which Sunlite truck?? I know of 4 different ones.
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Old February 23rd, 2017, 05:59 PM   #3
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Not entirely sure! What should I be looking-for/measuring to determine?
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Old February 23rd, 2017, 08:20 PM   #4
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Single or double action??
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Old February 24th, 2017, 05:46 PM   #5
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Old February 24th, 2017, 06:58 PM   #6
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I believe.... those will press out. Not 100% sure but cast in axles are a relatively new occurrence and DA Sunlites are well aged.

I would ask what on earth you are up to.... but then again, I may not want to know.
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Old February 25th, 2017, 05:25 AM   #7
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And these?



Very similar skate build this time, just an ever so slightly different goal/application.
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Old February 25th, 2017, 05:27 AM   #8
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Any recommendations... on sourcing a longer compatible set of axles?
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Old February 27th, 2017, 03:38 PM   #9
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Any recommendations... on sourcing a longer compatible set of axles?
A1 axles by Sure Grip could work. Hit up your favorite parts source.... If they give you that blank "huh" look, get back to me.

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Old April 22nd, 2017, 05:41 PM   #10
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Bought a set of the SG A1 axles. The steel appears to be harder, unfortunately however, the length is identical. Looks like I'll be using a weak grade loctite on those nuts or having new axles turned from round stock
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Just how long are the axles you currently have??
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Just how long are the axles you currently have??
I'm out of town this weekend, but I'll put the calipers on them when I get back and let you know.
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Please do. Something is not making sense here.
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The original axles are 104mm, the SG A1 axles are 105mm - so 0.5mm per axle nut, not nearly enough difference to help them be more secure.
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Angry Well now, that explains that.....

A1 axles are 110mm not 104. Those appear to be the standard SG 8mm axle as used in all their current production.

The A1 was developed when quad sk8 wheels typically had a 0.4" (10.16mm) bearing spacing, not the ~ 0.3" (7.62mm) spacing that is typical now.

Feel free to educate the folks that sold those to you and have them send you the correct ones.

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If I recall correctly, he had used longboard wheels for this build and those likely have that .400 spacing you speak of
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If I recall correctly, he had used longboard wheels for this build and those likely have that .400 spacing you speak of
That would explain the problem encountered.
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Old April 26th, 2017, 12:03 AM   #18
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Default Will the real SG A1 axles please stand up...

So they sent me the wrong axles... I wondered if as much was a possibility.

To answer Mort: Both the Sunset Cruiser Flares and the Sector9 Lumithanes are indeed long-board wheels.

OKCSkater faced them in his machine shop to address the side-set vs. center-set issue encountered with all skateboard wheels, but there's nothing to be done on the lathe to address the spacer issue because the spacer contains the magnet half of the dynamo that is an LED wheel. So, the spacer's width is effectively fixed if you want the LEDs to work. I suppose I could have the hub's internal "spacer" faced down ~3+mm and then switch the magnet spacers out with ones from a set of roller skate LED wheels - but honestly that sounds like a lot more trouble than just swapping out longer off-the-shelf axles.
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