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Old July 11th, 2007, 08:31 PM   #21
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I am challenging it! My Pinnacles are all carbon fiber shell and they are pretty darned light at 410 grams! I wouldn't expect any stock boot to be lighter!
Just because it's custom doesn't mean it lighter.

The stock boot in this picture weighs 350 grams. Size 10 for my left foot. My right foot is a 10.5.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 10:38 PM   #22
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Just because it's custom doesn't mean it lighter.

The stock boot in this picture weighs 350 grams.

Cool! I was thinking that since a stock boot has a lot more "filler" here and there it would be heavier.

My boots are nothing more than a carbon fiber shell with a suede liner and leather covering. I suppose the block could make an impact on the weight.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #23
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Leather has an impact on the weight of a boot. Leather is heavy. Micofiber & Neoprenes can make a boot lighter.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 11:46 PM   #24
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My skates weigh in around 215 pounds.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 01:25 AM   #25
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My skates weigh in around 215 pounds.
LOL Must be all that carbon fiber
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Old July 12th, 2007, 02:15 AM   #26
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DOH!

I forgot to take them off.
I also need a small scale
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Old July 12th, 2007, 02:55 PM   #27
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I don't have any precision instruments or real race skates for that matter.

But as a comparison, my RB Lightnings are 8 pounds.

My old Crossfires are 8.5 pounds. I thought that there would a bigger difference between these two.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 09:40 PM   #28
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DOH!

Sorry, I often mystify myself with my lame humor.
I should take Panch0's advice to just shut up and skate
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Old July 13th, 2007, 07:36 PM   #29
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I'm running Hyper Sincro S6 customs from Brad Haper (approx. size 11W), K2 4x100 frames, Matter F3100 wheels (training), and ILQ9 bearings for a total mass of 1177g on the left. The right skate is 120g heavier due to a brake which gets removed for races. Also I'm running MPC gold wheels for the races this year, I don't know if that changes the weight.

Have been using the Harper boots for about 4 months now and I'm really happy with them.

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Old July 17th, 2007, 03:41 PM   #30
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How are these for sleds?

Simmons boots (8.5/S-last)
Mogema XRR155 4x110mm
SiNSystem Gold Ceramic Bearings (w/spacers)
SuperSonic Serial Winners (110mm)

I'll put one on the bathroom scale later and post an actual weight ...
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Old July 19th, 2007, 09:19 PM   #31
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I might be out of range on this question but here goes:
does the fact of the length of the inline plate have anything to do with the ability to gain more speed? I wondered if it was like snow skiing; meaning the longer the ski's the faster the speed.

could anyone help?

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Old July 20th, 2007, 04:41 AM   #32
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meaning the longer the ski's the faster the speed.

yeah Pat! Something similar... the longer the frame, the longer/even they roll.

They are not going to go faster on their own... that'll come from your engine.
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Old July 20th, 2007, 07:32 AM   #33
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in general, i agree. the longer the frame, the faster the potential to go faster. But with these limitations - You have to be able to push them, and if you can't, you are probably putting yourself at a disadvantage schlepping a big frame which you can't use to your advantage. So it's better to size a frame to your ability, capability, power, and stature. And there is an effective limit to frame length, and beyond a certain point, a longer frame will not translate into more power no matter how strong a skater you are. The Powerslide Armegedeon (sp?) comes to mind as a frame that exceeded a viable length (4x100+90).

But in racing, there's different types of speed - top end speed, speed on demand, speed gained at the expense of maneuverability, and speed that is acheived at the expense of a lot of (too much?) energy. There's a lot more to it than you might expect, and ultimately, the question becomes one of defining speed, becuase it's all about how you measure it.
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Old July 20th, 2007, 01:51 PM   #34
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I agree OI. I also wonder if it was a bad choice settling on my TruRev frame that's 12.8" (4X100 evenly spaced) instead of the one with the first wheel separated. I say this, knowing that Chuck had issues with his longer TruRev. However, just about every one of the top skaters on my team, Russell Parmely, Dave Weber to name two...use the longer TruRev 165 mount frames.

I would like to think that the shorter, more responsive frame I have makes the heel carve on the underpush of a double-push stroke easier to do but I may be wrong.

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Old July 20th, 2007, 02:02 PM   #35
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If weight is important to anyone, I think they ought to look at the EO one piece carbon frames: EO Frames I would think that at this point, everyone would be wanting a 110 frame but wow, it FLOATS in water.

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Old July 20th, 2007, 04:32 PM   #36
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in general, i agree. the longer the frame, the faster the potential to go faster. But with these limitations - You have to be able to push them, and if you can't, you are probably putting yourself at a disadvantage schlepping a big frame which you can't use to your advantage. So it's better to size a frame to your ability, capability, power, and stature. And there is an effective limit to frame length, and beyond a certain point, a longer frame will not translate into more power no matter how strong a skater you are. The Powerslide Armegedeon (sp?) comes to mind as a frame that exceeded a viable length (4x100+90).

But in racing, there's different types of speed - top end speed, speed on demand, speed gained at the expense of maneuverability, and speed that is acheived at the expense of a lot of (too much?) energy. There's a lot more to it than you might expect, and ultimately, the question becomes one of defining speed, becuase it's all about how you measure it.

On In.... I'm going to quote you on this one but starting another thread on frame length. I'd like to "talk" about it some more!!
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Old July 25th, 2007, 07:15 AM   #37
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I'm just using this as a chance to show off my new Challenges with the TruRev 110-100-110-110 frame. Sweet!

Left: 1215 grams
Right: 1220 grams

Size 7 Luigino Challenges, TruRev 110-100-110-110, TruRev Wheels, TwinCam ILQ-9 Classics (from an Eddy Matzger clinic)



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Old July 25th, 2007, 01:44 PM   #38
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My coach just got a pair of custom Simmons Mojos. They're awesome. He skated without laces and didn't feel like he needed them. Right on the bottom of each boot written on a piece of tape is their weight. If memory serves they were 275g for the boot and 40g for the carbon lace cover. Now THAT'S light. Im not sure what the 110mm Matter wheels and Liberty ION 4X110 frames plus axles and bearing add up to but it has to be a light skate.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 01:02 AM   #39
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My 13.2 set up with the Mogemas dressed as Hyper frames that Bret gave me @ 1225 gms.
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My 13.2 set up with the Mogemas dressed as Hyper frames that Bret gave me @ 1225 gms.
Yeah, but those are 100mm wheels. He He. 110s would add another 60 grams. 15 x 4.
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