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Old March 22nd, 2017, 09:47 PM   #21
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Yes, a larger wheel frame on your current boot would make a fairly large difference... but you're even more "stuck" in 165mm mount since you'll have even more 165mm mount equipment unless the frame you get is dual mount (which is even less common.) It'll be a bigger jump in speed and performance to go to the SEBA Marathon 110. But, like what is frustrating for many of us, we don't always get to try them before we buy. And the same for the next step of a lower cut speed boot.

But no one can tell you neither what's more important for you nor how any particular boot is going to fit or perform for you.

Great answers, huh?

To put it in perspective, though, Richard Nett, the guy that runs NettRacing got pretty disenchanted with speed boots in general. He was having issues with ankle strength since he wasn't training as much as he used to. Some people don't have as much of this issue, but in the end, he was an wasn't enjoying skating as much. He got a hold of the SEBA boots and even though he had less direct control, he wasn't fighting the pain and strain, so he could skate with less fatigue and the control issues were less of an issue since he wasn't fighting the pain that was preventing him from having the form he wanted. So, it was a trade off, avoiding pain won on its own merits, but he also noticed his lap times were better as well, plus he wasn't as fatigued afterwards.
I think this, AZRoadRunner's and shesk8's responses have all helped me form an idea. For me, having the snug, heat mouldableness with a mid cuff boot is probably the best answer. I'm going to go with the SEBA Marathon 110s.

Now that I've sorted that, the next question: size? Measured my feet last night, and my longest foot is 280mm, which, based on THIS chart, is 1mm shy of the size 44 boot (the TriX boot, as far as I can tell is what is on the Marathon setup? Please correct me if I am wrong). In normal shoes, I am a 10.5 or 11 US, depending on the shoe. Should I go 44 or 45 to be safe?
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Old March 23rd, 2017, 10:55 PM   #22
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Matguy- the Seba Marathon is not designed as 'heatmoldable' (meaning there is not a sandwich layer of thermo plastic material between layers of carbon fiber to help form fit the boot) ...at least not yet. We've suggest this idea for future version of this boot, along with a few other ideas to make this an over-the-top boot choice.

That said, I heated my Marathon boots (as I did my iGors) to help accelerate break-in period, and in particular push in the tops in snugly around my ankles. To be able to form fit the heel and achilles areas would be ideal plus's for this boot. Though, in defense of the current model marathon boots, they fit pretty darn well right out of the box.

re: 110 vs 100, the 100's make it a little more easier to maneuver or steer the skates. whereas 110's feel a bit sluggish and can feel this in the stroke/cadence. For myself, personally 100's(12.8" frame) is perfect, as are the 3x110's(11.2" frame) I set up on this boot. Both frames feel very equated in their steering and maneuverability.
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Differences in Powerslide Endurance skates:
Grand Prix - Carbon-fiberglass shell, 3x125 set up (similar uppers as Marathon)
*I've seen the shell denoted as heat moldable.
Marathon - Fiberglass shell, 4x110 set up (simlar upper as Grand Prix)
Endurance - Composite X-skeletal shell, soft boot type design, 4x100 set up

more details: http://powerskating.powerslide.com/
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Old March 24th, 2017, 09:48 PM   #24
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Matguy- the Seba Marathon is not designed as 'heatmoldable' (meaning there is not a sandwich layer of thermo plastic material between layers of carbon fiber to help form fit the boot) ...at least not yet. We've suggest this idea for future version of this boot, along with a few other ideas to make this an over-the-top boot choice.

That said, I heated my Marathon boots (as I did my iGors) to help accelerate break-in period, and in particular push in the tops in snugly around my ankles. To be able to form fit the heel and achilles areas would be ideal plus's for this boot. Though, in defense of the current model marathon boots, they fit pretty darn well right out of the box.

re: 110 vs 100, the 100's make it a little more easier to maneuver or steer the skates. whereas 110's feel a bit sluggish and can feel this in the stroke/cadence. For myself, personally 100's(12.8" frame) is perfect, as are the 3x110's(11.2" frame) I set up on this boot. Both frames feel very equated in their steering and maneuverability.
You might want to update this page: http://www.theskatenowshop.com/index...mart&Itemid=61
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Old March 27th, 2017, 04:29 PM   #25
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Thx for that catch Matguy... we're rolling out an entire new page this season so the old page has not had updates in sometime, but yeah, probably ought to clear that up.
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Where abouts in Australia?
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Old April 6th, 2017, 08:23 PM   #27
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K2 Mod 125 - is the only one I can recommend. https://k2skates.com/en/inline-skates/mod-125-2017.html

Seba Marathon boot is much too heavy and clunky, the uppers clang together when skating, plus for me it lacked heel hold. Had the heel hold not been so bad I would've kept them and stripped them down as much as possible to reduce weight. The potential is there for Seba to make a great marathon boot if they'd only take a serious look at what K2 got right with the Radical Pro and Mod 125. K2 Radical Boa was a disaster, stay away from them.
Don't waste your time with Powerslide Grand Prix and Marathon skates, they have great heel hold which will skin you alive and have terrible forward lean.
Bont Semi-Race, downright awful, you'll grow to hate them! The innards break down in no time, about half way into the skating season and you will experience new blisters and little lumps forming on your feet every other skate session. Plus there is zero arch support, despite what Bont will have you believe, they are made for the Asian market, flat feet!
Rollerblade Tempest marathon/rec skates, too sloppy, will continue to break down into a soft unsupportive mess.
Rollerblade Powerblade 125, beautiful skate, soft comfy low cut race boot, just too much skate for you. Must develop ankle strength and technique before thinking about them. https://www.rollerblade.com/products...blade-125-3wd/
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Old April 6th, 2017, 08:47 PM   #28
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Differences in Powerslide Endurance skates:
Grand Prix - Carbon-fiberglass shell, 3x125 set up (similar uppers as Marathon)
*I've seen the shell denoted as heat moldable.
Marathon - Fiberglass shell, 4x110 set up (simlar upper as Grand Prix)
Endurance - Composite X-skeletal shell, soft boot type design, 4x100 set up

more details: http://powerskating.powerslide.com/
I had the Marathon and the carbon-fiberglass (version) Grand Prix, the shell is not heat moldable.

@shesk8, could you please use your industry insider influence to push Seba toward making the marathon skate boot a lighter and more performance oriented "boot only option" while maintaining the current last which is shaped for actual feet and not some screwballs idea of how an inline skate should fit a masochist skater i.e., reference to the old Mogema and Verducci boots
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