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Old July 22nd, 2013, 10:49 AM   #221
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 09:09 PM   #222
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Built these for fun - will give them a road-test this weekend - weather permitting.

Cast SGA Wallaby Size 5 plates
DA45 Flip Axles Conversion (thanks Doc)
Kryptonics Route 70mm
Altamura Rental Boots (De-Heeled)

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Wallaby or Kangaroos? Are there 2 different types of Wallaby?
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 09:43 PM   #223
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color flipped 811s, avenger..and some road hogs.

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Old July 22nd, 2013, 10:07 PM   #224
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Wallaby or Kangaroos? Are there 2 different types of Wallaby?
The Wallaby's came out in a SA45 configuration on a "rivet" style hanger/plate similiar to a sure-grip cyclone and then changed to a SA45 cast plate later on.
You can pick up both types of SGA Wallabys on ebay normally attached to dunlop footy boots.
Rivet Wallaby Size 6

Cast Wallaby Size 6
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 10:31 PM   #225
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Prolly not keepers but they were built for outdoor purposes

The Ultimates are painted now
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 01:52 PM   #226
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Those Chesters are beautiful and so comfortable. It's a shame that they skate like flip flops. The velco helps some, maybe a shoe guy can fix the heel slip so that they will skate as good as they look. Fingers crossed

Beautiful mounts btw <3
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Old July 24th, 2013, 12:06 AM   #227
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Default My Urban Warrior Metro Skate build takes final shape.

These new outdoor optimized skates are a re-do build of my neon orange striped, 15 years old Nike BB shoe build, that were my prior (now gone) avatar PIC. With many years of R&D learning what makes for best outdoor quad skate performance all integrated into this build, I am very pleased, as well as surprised at how well they are performing so far. Hopefully, in 10 years, their minimum design life, I will still be rolling them and enjoying them







When Nike did a retro release of the Zoom Air 96 BB shoe several years back I knew I had to jump on a pair right away, as IMO they are one of the most fantastic non-skate athletic shoes you can possibly find with key design features that perfectly match the needs for a serious heavy duty service, ultra foot comfort, high performance outdoor skate build.

I did not immediately launch into doing a fresh build with these (at that time) new shoes, as back then I felt there were still too many new things I was just learning for ways to achieve best outdoor skate build performance, and I wanted to more fully master these before completing this build.

Areas of my particular concerns for outdoor quad skate optimization included:
1) Improving vibration dampening
2) Improving carbon fiber sole stiffener sheet integration with shoe
3) Learning the extent of benefit from using larger than 70mm diameter wheels
4) Wheel width optimization - how narrow can wheel go before detrimental effects show up
5) Maximizing deck height clearance to allow large wheels without producing sharp turning wheel bite.
6) Outdoor specific suspension optimization.
7) Extent of benefit from using silicon nitride ceramic ball bearings
8) Best front axle position and axle spread.
9) enhanced shock absorbing capability when encountering rolling surface unevenness & irregularities

With this build now finally nearing completion (only the lace eyelets need to be installed (***NOW DONE) I will be documenting the entire process in a separate build thread.

Items in build as pictured above:
1) Size 10M Nike Zoom Air 96 BB shoes with carbon fiber arch and wraparound heel & side counters made from heavy duty, stiffened. combined carbon fiber fabric with semi-stiff plastic foam; sole grip ribs mostly removed to create a pocket for embedding carbon fiber laminate sole stiffener sheet.

2) DragonPlate carbon fiber to Birch wood core laminate sole stiffener 1/8" thick

3) Reverse mounted size 11 SG Nova fiberglass reinforced nylon box beam plate; upgraded to reversed kingpins using chrome-moly 3/8-16 threaded rod (stock trucks discarded); ~.100" of thickness of plate on deck top sanded off to remove grid pattern of stiffener ribs and to improve plate's glue adhesion contact area with carbon fiber sole stiffener.

4) Chicago Panther adjustable pivot fiberglass reinforced nylon trucks with axles upgraded to wider, fully threaded 7mm steel Magnum ones; speed nuts added; note that the purpose of swapping over to these Panther trucks was to gain a significant increase in deck height; even with 76mm OD wheels pictured above, a 16+mm (5/8") wheel-to plate gap still remains.

5) Suspension: Nova soft (~78A) deep blue cushions: upper barrel 5/8" tall by 1" OD with retainer; lower custom turned barrel 1/2" tall by~.900" OD with 7/8" OD washer.

6) Acer Racing 608 Si3N4 ceramic black ball & chrome steel bearings ($80/set of 16) and 7mm X 8mm custom fit axle sleeves.

7) Landyachtz Zombie Hawg 76mm OD X 84A wheels; custom narrowed on lathe down to a 35.5mm width (from original 46mm) & 32mm contact patch width.

8) Generic, aluminum stem heel stop with aluminum jam nut.

9) Braided Kevlar 1000+ pound test laces (flat & better color matched ones added later);

10) (Soon to be installed ***NOW DONE) 3/16" ID Black oxide brass lace eyelets with backing washer.

11) 100% Shoe Goo urethane adhesive assembly of boot-carbon sheet-plate;

Current weight per skate - just over 1600 grams
Cost of items:
1) Nike Zoom Air 96 BB shoes on Ebay ~$90
2) Nova Plates ~$75 and $10 for reversed KP upgrade
3) Panther truck $40 and $20 for axle upgrades
4) Carbon fiber sheet material ~$15 per shoe
5) Acer Racing set of (16) 608 Ceramic Si3N4 black ball chrome steel bearings $80
6) Zombie Hawg Wheels, set of (8) $80
7) Kevlar Laces, 1000# test- 1 pair $5
8) (24) Lace Eyelets 2-piece $3
9) Shoe Goo - (1) Tube $7

Total H/W Cost $440. Total Labor cost $0 - Lots of hours though!

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Old July 24th, 2013, 03:01 AM   #228
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The Wallaby's came out in a SA45 configuration on a "rivet" style hanger/plate similiar to a sure-grip cyclone and then changed to a SA45 cast plate later on.
You can pick up both types of SGA Wallabys on ebay normally attached to dunlop footy boots.
Rivet Wallaby Size 6

Cast Wallaby Size 6
Well blow me down! 30 years and still learning. Thanks for that though, I appreciate it.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #229
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Those Chesters are beautiful and so comfortable. It's a shame that they skate like flip flops. The velco helps some, maybe a shoe guy can fix the heel slip so that they will skate as good as they look. Fingers crossed

Beautiful mounts btw <3
Well here`s yours and I must say, they look pretty spiffy for an outdoor skate. 395 blue/yellow side flap, Roll Line Driver, Radar Pure`s w/Bones Reds.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 03:09 AM   #230
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And how do you know so much about my outdoor set up.....oh, yeah you gave them to me
Thank you baby <3 They roll fantastic and fit like a slipper. I love skating outside and now that I have a pair of comfortable skates I'll be doing it more often.
You are so thoughtful and caring. I love you Avery.
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