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Old October 4th, 2008, 05:14 PM   #1
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The Great Lakes Speed League first meet is at Skate Illini on October 5 in Danville Ill. Good luck to all skaters and Go Bells Speed Club of Fort Wayne Indiana.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 12:22 AM   #2
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It was a fun meet today. I got GOLD in Junior Men quads and BRONZE on Novice Sophmore
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INLINE STANDARD

Tiny Tot Boys:
1st Eli Shofner Odyssey
2nd Simon Scheidel Odyssey

Primary Girls:
1st Caitlin Smith Team Illini
2nd Ava Shofner Odyssey

Primary Boys:
1st Trey Tinsley Texas Speed
2nd David Meyer Bells Speed
3rd Tejas Anand X-Treme

Juvenile Girls:
1st Julia Countryman Fleetwood

Juvenile Boys:
1st Braxtyn Weidler Team Rollerdome
2nd Dylan Scott Team Rollerdome
3rd Michael Perks Hillsdale Sk8 Crew

Elementary Girls:
1st Joana Arevalo Skate City Speed
2nd Nina Tinsley Teaxas Speed
3rd Skylar Betsinger X-Treme Speed

Elementary Boys:
1st RJ Muldoon Bells Speed
2nd Braxtyn Weidler Team Rollerdome
3rd Aaron Gettys Bells Speed

Freshman Girls:
1st Emma Huddleston Ohio Valley
2nd Emily Crumpton X-Treme
3rd Megan Gillis Capital City

Freshman Boys:
1st Chaz Im X-Treme
2nd Christian Keesler Bells
3rd Ausitn Rosenwinkle

Sophomore Woman:
1st Hailey Leech X-Trem
2nd Megan Gillis Capital City
3rd Shannon Ward Hillsdale Sk8 Crew

Sophomore Men:
1st Austin Rosenwinkle X-Treme Speed
2nd Austin Zurlinden Team Illini
3rd Christian Keesler Bells

Junior Woman:
1st Elizabeth White Team Rollerdome

Junior Men:
1st Jimmy Uplinger Team Illini
2n Brandon Wonderlin Team Illini

Senior Men:
1st Joren Devries Team Wisconsin
2nd Jarred Bradley Bells Speed

Classic Ladies:
1st Lisa Dunham Team Illini
2nd Heather Fromm Bells
3rd Liz Kufer X-Treme

Classic Men:
1st Matt Betsinger X-Treme
2nd Jared Bradley Bells
3rd Eric Johnson X-Treme

Master Ladies:
1st Mary Cahill Odyssey

Master Men:
1st Aaron Hoover Team Rollerdome
2nd Brian Weideler Team Rollerdome
3rd Jerry Shipman Team Rollerdome

Veteran Ladies:
1st Denise Larson Capital City
2nd Shelly Meiner Ohio Valley
3rd Judy Scheidel Odyssey

Veteran Men:
1st Al Tinsley Texas Speed
2nd Mark Woods Bells
3rd Donnie Scheidel Odyssey

Elite:
1st Jim Larson Capital City
2nd Aaron Hoover Rollerdome
3rd Joren Devries Team Wisconsin

INLINE DEVELOPMENTAL (NOVICE)

Primary Girls:
1st Ava Shofner Odyssey
2nd Caitlin Smith Team Illini

Primary Boys:
1st Tejas Anand X-Treme
2nd David Meyer Bells
3rd Trey Tinsley Texas Speed
4th Brandon Cahill Odyssey

Juvenile Girls:
1st Julia Countryman Fleetwood

Juvenile Boys:
1st Dylan Scott Rollerdome
2nd Ely Dunham Team Illini
3rd Michael Perks Hillsdale Sk8 Crew
4th Conner Rice Hillsdale Sk8 Crew

Elementary Girls
1st Joana Arevalo Skate City Speed
2nd Skylar Betsinger X-Treme
3rd Jennifer Hughes Bells Speed
4th Breeonna Quick Skate City

Elementary Boys:
1st. R J Muldoon Bells
2nd Aaron Gettys Bells
3rd Scott Meyer Bells
4th Jayson Webber Team Illini

Freshman Girls:
1st Emma Huddleston Ohio Valley
2nd Katie Swisher Team Illini
3rd Mary Houlihan X-Treme

Freshman Boys:
1st Cameron Adams Cobras
2nd Jonathon Ingles Hillsdale Sk8 Crew
3rd Austin Paxton Team Illini

Sophomore Ladies:
1st Shannon Ward Hillsdale Sk8 Crew
2nd Celina Wait Team Illini
3rd Nicole Whitney Team Illini
4th Kayla Willoughby Team Illini

Sophomore Men:
1st Luke Biggerstaff Cobras
2nd Austin Zurlinden Team Illini
3rd Tim Hagan Cobras

Junior Ladies:
1st Elizabeth White Team Rollerdome

Junior Men:
1st Brandon Wonderlin Team Illini

Senior & Above Ladies:
1st Heather Fromm Bells
2nd Judy Scheidel Odyssey
3rd Ashley Bowles Odyssey

Senior & Above Men:
1st Jarrad Gettys Bells
2nd Wade Yost Rollerdome
3rd Jason Countryman Fleetwood
4th Doug Heiman Cobras

QUADS

Tiny Tot Boys:
1st Ethan Dunham Team Illini

Primary Boys:
1st. David Meyer Bells Speed

Elementary Girls:
1st Selena Paxton Team Illini
2nd Julia Countryman Fleetwood Speed
3rd Cassandra Trulock Savoy Speed

Elementary Boys:
1st Jayson Webber Team Illini
2nd Jason Countryman Fleetwood
3rd Braxtyn Weidler Team Rollerdome

Freshman Girls:
1st Kaitlyn Pribble Team Illini
2nd Katie Swisher Team Illini
3rd Casey Voogd X-Treme Speed

Freshman Boys:
1st Troy Yoder Bells Speed
2nd Austin Paxton Team Illini
3rd Krystian Hamaker Cobras

Junior Women:
1st Celina Wait Team Illini
2nd Alexandria Rys Team Illini
3rd Nicole Whitney Team Illini

Junior Men:
1st Cameron Adams Cobras
2nd Tim Hagan Cobras
3rd Austin Zurlinden Team Illini

Senior Woman:
1st Wendi Wentzell Riverside Speed

Senior Men:
1st Alex Scott Cobras
2nd Luke Biggerstaff Cobras
3rd Joren Devires Team Wisconsin

Classic Ladies:
1st Dakota Prosch Fleetwood
2nd Tracy Yost Team Rollerdome

Classic Men:
1st Jimmy Larson Capital City
2nd Jason Countryman Fleetwood

Master Men:
1st Brian Weidler Team Rollerdome
2nd Doug Heiman Cobras
3rd Tim Lesak X-Treme

Master Women:
1st Roberta Meyer Bells Speed

Veteran Women:
1st Shelly Meiners Ohio Valley
2nd Pam Dieckmann Cobras
3rd Rowena Countryman Fleetwood

Veteran Men:
1st Jack Countryman Fleetwood
2nd Mark Woods Bells
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Old October 6th, 2008, 02:08 AM   #4
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QUADS
Junior Man
Gold - Tim Hagan Cobras
Silver - Careon Adams Cobras

those two were switched.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 02:41 AM   #5
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It was a fun meet today. I got GOLD in Junior Men quads and BRONZE on Novice Sophmore

You did better than me... I didn't place!!!
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Old October 6th, 2008, 02:48 AM   #6
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im glad you made it, im sure you saw me. I was the 14 year old thats 6 foot with those red and silver uni's
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Old October 6th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #7
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Yup, I saw you guys out there. I was one of the Elite guys in the red, silver, and black uni's. I had a lot of traction problems until I put on some old practice wheels, they worked great!! Go figure. I think I could have placed if we got to skate our last distance. I had bad starts in both the 5 and the 10 where there is not time to recover. The 30 would have been plenty of time.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 01:48 PM   #8
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Danville was my first speed meet back in 23yrs. It was fun and look forward to Indy. Everyone was very nice. I'm so glad to be competing again!
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Old October 7th, 2008, 03:43 AM   #9
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I am VERY VERY happy to be competing again after a 20+ year absence from the sport I love. Placed 3rd master men quads and 1st soph & up 2man quad relay. I am also very disappointed in the way our 1st league meet played out. I am not attacking anyone specifically here but there are some things that NEED to be addressed immediately. First off quads are the root of our sport if you eliminate them you will lose a large portion of our competitors. Inlines are why I quit years ago, we had to race against them, HA!! no contest, quads got smoked. Quads and inlines are separated which is good, I look at it like car racing, inlines are like Indy cars and quads are like stock cars. Both are fast in their own right, both are similar, but not competitive against each other. Different style different technique same result, going fast, passing and race strategy to name a few.

I only competed in quads at the meet due to equipment issues not by choice. I wish more inline skaters would skate quads too, I'm pretty sure that's where most skaters got started, but I could be wrong. Inlines are the superior equipment for outright speed, better traction and lighter weight compared to quads. Quads are also more popular as far as general public and roller rinks go (IMO) This is where we will pull people from to get into speed skating, expose them to it anyway.

As far as the actual meet goes there were many negative things that should not have happened. A quote from the 2008 Great lakes speed league meeting minutes "The host rink for each meet should have floor coated 1 month prior to the meet. We discussed that this is not always possible, everyone in attendance agreed to do their best and make sure coating is applied as close to meet date as possible."
(over heard at the meet) the floor was not coated since last meet. Danville wanted the 1st meet of the season and knew what was requested of them, why did they not comply with the proposed request to hold a meet. I have skated on streets that were smoother than that. Skaters showed up to compete on a floor that has some expected properties, smoothness and grip, neither was present. Skaters were struggling all day with grip or lack of it.

MY opinion. The length(time) of the meet ran over because of slower lap times due to floor and additional skaters signing up at the meet, which is fine, the more the merrier. Eliminating races to make sure you can open for a matinee session is unacceptable, a lot people drove hundreds of miles to compete in their full event and were denied the opportunity to do so. I have been to skating meets in just about every aspect of skating, indoor/outdoor speed and artistic and have NEVER been ran out because of a public session. We have hosted many meets in the past years and never tried to cram everything into a time slot, it ends when it ends. When the last skater is presented his/her awards standing on the podium. Curious to know what would have happened if (hope it doesn't happen) someone was injured to the point of having to call paramedics, or problems with building IE. sound system or lights.
What would you do now?? End the meet?? I think it was due to poor planning, bottom line.

This is another concern, I was REALLY disappointed to see medals essentially tossed out to skaters. It looked like a feeding frenzy at a shark tank.
Adults could probably careless about an awards presentation, but I think the kids really enjoy that part the most. "Hey!! look at mesee what I won!! this is my moment of glory, take a picture so I can remember this moment forever." Not at this meet though maybe next time.

If I were a new skater and this was my first meet, I would reconsider if I wanted to deal with this, you know they would think "is this is the normal proceedure for a speed meet"? We all know better, but this was a poor example of how an event should be ran.

Over all it was a very good time. I got to see some people I haven't seen in years. The officials did an exellent job and I could understand the announcements not charlie browns teacher WAAA WA WA WAAAA

Just giving my opinion $.02
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Old October 7th, 2008, 01:53 PM   #10
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I am VERY VERY happy to be competing again after a 20+ year absence from the sport I love. Placed 3rd master men quads and 1st soph & up 2man quad relay. I am also very disappointed in the way our 1st league meet played out. I am not attacking anyone specifically here but there are some things that NEED to be addressed immediately. First off quads are the root of our sport if you eliminate them you will lose a large portion of our competitors. Inlines are why I quit years ago, we had to race against them, HA!! no contest, quads got smoked. Quads and inlines are separated which is good, I look at it like car racing, inlines are like Indy cars and quads are like stock cars. Both are fast in their own right, both are similar, but not competitive against each other. Different style different technique same result, going fast, passing and race strategy to name a few.

I only competed in quads at the meet due to equipment issues not by choice. I wish more inline skaters would skate quads too, I'm pretty sure that's where most skaters got started, but I could be wrong. Inlines are the superior equipment for outright speed, better traction and lighter weight compared to quads. Quads are also more popular as far as general public and roller rinks go (IMO) This is where we will pull people from to get into speed skating, expose them to it anyway.

As far as the actual meet goes there were many negative things that should not have happened. A quote from the 2008 Great lakes speed league meeting minutes "The host rink for each meet should have floor coated 1 month prior to the meet. We discussed that this is not always possible, everyone in attendance agreed to do their best and make sure coating is applied as close to meet date as possible."
(over heard at the meet) the floor was not coated since last meet. Danville wanted the 1st meet of the season and knew what was requested of them, why did they not comply with the proposed request to hold a meet. I have skated on streets that were smoother than that. Skaters showed up to compete on a floor that has some expected properties, smoothness and grip, neither was present. Skaters were struggling all day with grip or lack of it.

MY opinion. The length(time) of the meet ran over because of slower lap times due to floor and additional skaters signing up at the meet, which is fine, the more the merrier. Eliminating races to make sure you can open for a matinee session is unacceptable, a lot people drove hundreds of miles to compete in their full event and were denied the opportunity to do so. I have been to skating meets in just about every aspect of skating, indoor/outdoor speed and artistic and have NEVER been ran out because of a public session. We have hosted many meets in the past years and never tried to cram everything into a time slot, it ends when it ends. When the last skater is presented his/her awards standing on the podium. Curious to know what would have happened if (hope it doesn't happen) someone was injured to the point of having to call paramedics, or problems with building IE. sound system or lights.
What would you do now?? End the meet?? I think it was due to poor planning, bottom line.

This is another concern, I was REALLY disappointed to see medals essentially tossed out to skaters. It looked like a feeding frenzy at a shark tank.
Adults could probably careless about an awards presentation, but I think the kids really enjoy that part the most. "Hey!! look at mesee what I won!! this is my moment of glory, take a picture so I can remember this moment forever." Not at this meet though maybe next time.

If I were a new skater and this was my first meet, I would reconsider if I wanted to deal with this, you know they would think "is this is the normal proceedure for a speed meet"? We all know better, but this was a poor example of how an event should be ran.

Over all it was a very good time. I got to see some people I haven't seen in years. The officials did an exellent job and I could understand the announcements not charlie browns teacher WAAA WA WA WAAAA

Just giving my opinion $.02
Wow Tim your long winded, we needed some of that wind on our relay. LOL jus kidn. I'm pretty sure we came in 2nd in the relay. As far as the floor...Yes it was bad, but it was bad for everyone. As far as the everything else, it was what it was. Dont sweat the small stuff, look at the big picture we were competing!! It was a league meet, not an invitational, or a reagional. But you cant please everyone all of the time. Indy will be better. Tim that was not directed at just you, just everyone whose whining out loud.LOL. See you at Indy. Wade
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This is kind of why all these meets dried up back in the old days, right? People worked really hard to put on a meet, and all they got was whining and complaining, so they decided it wasn't worth the hassle.
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I believe the meet in Indy is an inline only meet. Correct me, if I'm wrong.

Wades right, it was bad for everyone. We all were facing the same adversity. Remember real champions figure out a way to overcome these things. Instead of complaining, why not go home and work on improving your technique (this is not directed at anyone in particular, in fact, I'm taking my own advise because I feel the same as the rest of you) in order to be better prepared for these conditions next time. If time is an issue, perhaps we should look at dropping one of the distances as Doug had mentioned. We shouldn't be cutting out the awards ceremony. The relays to me seemed to be the biggest time delay. But all of this needs to be discussed with Lisa, not here!

On another note. I was glad to see new teams forming, existing teams growing, and returning skaters who are improving. Keep up the GREAT job and lets continue to grow our sport. Oh and by the way, we're not coating our floor either. LOL

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I believe the meet in Indy is an inline only meet. Correct me, if I'm wrong.

Wades right, it was bad for everyone. We all were facing the same adversity. Remember real champions figure out a way to overcome these things. Instead of complaining, why not go home and work on improving your technique (this is not directed at anyone in particular, in fact, I'm taking my own advise because I feel the same as the rest of you) in order to be better prepared for these conditions next time. If time is an issue, perhaps we should look at dropping one of the distances as Doug had mentioned. We shouldn't be cutting out the awards ceremony. The relays to me seemed to be the biggest time delay. But all of this needs to be discussed with Lisa, not here!

On another note. I was glad to see new teams forming, existing teams growing, and returning skaters who are improving. Keep up the GREAT job and lets continue to grow our sport. Oh and by the way, we're not coating our floor either. LOL

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I believe the meet in Indy is an inline only meet. Correct me, if I'm wrong.

Wades right, it was bad for everyone. We all were facing the same adversity. Remember real champions figure out a way to overcome these things. Instead of complaining, why not go home and work on improving your technique (this is not directed at anyone in particular, in fact, I'm taking my own advise because I feel the same as the rest of you) in order to be better prepared for these conditions next time. If time is an issue, perhaps we should look at dropping one of the distances as Doug had mentioned. We shouldn't be cutting out the awards ceremony. The relays to me seemed to be the biggest time delay. But all of this needs to be discussed with Lisa, not here!

On another note. I was glad to see new teams forming, existing teams growing, and returning skaters who are improving. Keep up the GREAT job and lets continue to grow our sport. Oh and by the way, we're not coating our floor either. LOL

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Thanks for the heads-up about not coating your floor, Aaron. You just saved me a lot of money. We'll be skipping that meet!
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Thanks for the heads-up about not coating your floor, Aaron. You just saved me a lot of money. We'll be skipping that meet!
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I am VERY VERY happy to be competing again after a 20+ year absence from the sport I love. Placed 3rd master men quads and 1st soph & up 2man quad relay. I am also very disappointed in the way our 1st league meet played out. I am not attacking anyone specifically here but there are some things that NEED to be addressed immediately. First off quads are the root of our sport if you eliminate them you will lose a large portion of our competitors. Inlines are why I quit years ago, we had to race against them, HA!! no contest, quads got smoked. Quads and inlines are separated which is good, I look at it like car racing, inlines are like Indy cars and quads are like stock cars. Both are fast in their own right, both are similar, but not competitive against each other. Different style different technique same result, going fast, passing and race strategy to name a few.

I only competed in quads at the meet due to equipment issues not by choice. I wish more inline skaters would skate quads too, I'm pretty sure that's where most skaters got started, but I could be wrong. Inlines are the superior equipment for outright speed, better traction and lighter weight compared to quads. Quads are also more popular as far as general public and roller rinks go (IMO) This is where we will pull people from to get into speed skating, expose them to it anyway.

As far as the actual meet goes there were many negative things that should not have happened. A quote from the 2008 Great lakes speed league meeting minutes "The host rink for each meet should have floor coated 1 month prior to the meet. We discussed that this is not always possible, everyone in attendance agreed to do their best and make sure coating is applied as close to meet date as possible."
(over heard at the meet) the floor was not coated since last meet. Danville wanted the 1st meet of the season and knew what was requested of them, why did they not comply with the proposed request to hold a meet. I have skated on streets that were smoother than that. Skaters showed up to compete on a floor that has some expected properties, smoothness and grip, neither was present. Skaters were struggling all day with grip or lack of it.

MY opinion. The length(time) of the meet ran over because of slower lap times due to floor and additional skaters signing up at the meet, which is fine, the more the merrier. Eliminating races to make sure you can open for a matinee session is unacceptable, a lot people drove hundreds of miles to compete in their full event and were denied the opportunity to do so. I have been to skating meets in just about every aspect of skating, indoor/outdoor speed and artistic and have NEVER been ran out because of a public session. We have hosted many meets in the past years and never tried to cram everything into a time slot, it ends when it ends. When the last skater is presented his/her awards standing on the podium. Curious to know what would have happened if (hope it doesn't happen) someone was injured to the point of having to call paramedics, or problems with building IE. sound system or lights.
What would you do now?? End the meet?? I think it was due to poor planning, bottom line.

This is another concern, I was REALLY disappointed to see medals essentially tossed out to skaters. It looked like a feeding frenzy at a shark tank.
Adults could probably careless about an awards presentation, but I think the kids really enjoy that part the most. "Hey!! look at mesee what I won!! this is my moment of glory, take a picture so I can remember this moment forever." Not at this meet though maybe next time.

If I were a new skater and this was my first meet, I would reconsider if I wanted to deal with this, you know they would think "is this is the normal proceedure for a speed meet"? We all know better, but this was a poor example of how an event should be ran.

Over all it was a very good time. I got to see some people I haven't seen in years. The officials did an exellent job and I could understand the announcements not charlie browns teacher WAAA WA WA WAAAA

Just giving my opinion $.02

Big thumbs up!!!!

I wasn't whining, I was complaining. It was a horribly run meet. I was this close to pulling my son, getting my money back and leaving. I completely forgot about the metal "ceremony". Last year we used to wait for the award ceremony but then we found out the metals don't mean anything because they just give away the extra ones to whom ever wants them afterwards. It doesn't make them very special when anyone can get one.

I'm hoping that the people in power see people are not happy and that the meets in Indy and Aurora are better.
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To answer questions that have been asked various places, the Nov. 2 Indianapolis meet will have both quads and inline races. The League has use of the floor "all day" so there should be enough time for everything. Word is that the floor was coated last month.
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