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Old March 1st, 2013, 08:31 PM   #1
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Dear Mr. RollerBones,

A couple of years ago, you said this...

"This is a market segment we are just getting back into. we are limping our way back in and started with the market that can bring us more cash for development. I am looking at my dry erase board in front of me and on that list is a 65-68mm x35mm outdoor wheel. It's very costly developing a new hub, as well as time consuming. we can only do so many things at a time.
let me get these to market first..."

Well, the Turbos were an out-of-the-ballpark-hit! The new colors look great, too!

Are the plans for outdoor wheels still "on the table?" For me, you could just make a Tall Turbo and call it a day. Just sayin'...
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 12:52 AM   #2
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For me, you could just make a Tall Turbo and call it a day.
Me too !!!
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 01:24 AM   #3
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Well, I'm never gonna pay 150$+ for a set of wheels to roll outdoors, but if trends keep raising, 16mm od bearings might come into vogue, any plans to bring a 16mm od ceramic to market?

And, when you color urethane does it's shore change?

And are you gonna make a skate boot?

And are you gonna market cushions?
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Old March 4th, 2013, 10:12 AM   #4
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Tall Turbos with 85a with 70-76mm diameter for outdoor speed are highly appreciated!
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Old March 4th, 2013, 10:05 PM   #5
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... 68mm x35mm outdoor wheel.
I'd be all over a Turbo with those dimensions (just as long as the outer edge profile was suitably radiused).
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Old March 5th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #6
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I would rather be dropping $100+ on a set of outdoor Turbos, than on a set of longboard wheels that I have to machine to get the inside wheel edge aligned with the inside bearing edge, and then cut some more width away on the outside too.

However, a 68mm OD is not going to cut it for me. I find that even a 70mm is not big enough since the urethane wears pretty fast outdoors, and you end up right back in the 6X mm OD range after a couple hundred miles

Give me a 72-76mm OD by 32-35mm wide and keep the hub big & light, please.

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Give me a 72-76mm OD by 32-35mm wide and keep the hub big & light, please.
Dude,
Get on some 110 inlines
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Old March 5th, 2013, 08:04 AM   #8
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Get on some 110 inlines
No passionate quadskater wants to change to inlines!
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I would rather be dropping $100+ on a set of outdoor Turbos, than on a set of longboard wheels that I have to machine to get the inside wheel edge aligned with the inside bearing edge, and then cut some more width away on the outside too.

However, a 68mm OD is not going to cut it for me. I find that even a 70mm is not big enough since the urethane wears pretty fast outdoors, and you end up right back in the 6X mm OD range after a couple hundred miles

Give me a 72-76mm OD by 32-35mm wide and keep the hub big & light, please.

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Old March 5th, 2013, 06:20 PM   #10
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We're lining up already
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Old March 5th, 2013, 06:24 PM   #11
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We're lining up already
Maybe you should have posted this in the quad and derby section where it would be more available to your subject.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 09:11 PM   #12
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Dude,
Get on some 110 inlines
This is likely as close as I will ever get to rollin' on inlines outdoors.

Metro Skate - "Urban Warrior"
Max. wheel size capacity at over 84mm; Nova plate with Panther trucks - reverse mount.




However, these wheels are what I am more likely to be seen rolling on. Unfortunately they have smaller hubs than the Turbos, so the urethane is too thick & heavy.
Good for training, not racing. Zombie Hawgs 76mm OD, thinned on lathe to ~35mm width.



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Old March 6th, 2013, 11:00 AM   #13
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I would rather be dropping $100+ on a set of outdoor Turbos, than on a set of longboard wheels that I have to machine to get the inside wheel edge aligned with the inside bearing edge, and then cut some more width away on the outside too.

However, a 68mm OD is not going to cut it for me. I find that even a 70mm is not big enough since the urethane wears pretty fast outdoors, and you end up right back in the 6X mm OD range after a couple hundred miles

Give me a 72-76mm OD by 32-35mm wide and keep the hub big & light, please.

-Armadillo
Agreed a 72-76mm turbo in 86-88a would be amazing, even if the hub stayed the same size and they just added more urethane.
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Old March 8th, 2013, 12:24 AM   #14
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Just to throw in my 2cents, for whatever its worth... I used to skate outdoors (in the 1970s) on Roller Sports urethane and Metaflex Easy-Riders. Since getting back into skating again recently, I've been using Atom Road Hogs (78A) and BonesTurbo (80A) outdoors. After trying both wheels on the same surface, I noticed a big difference between the Atoms and the RBTurbos, with regards to vibration (the RBTs felt like I was skating on a washboard), as well as a difference in roll (advantage: RBTs) and weight (advantage: RBTs). I just acquired a set of 80's vintage red Krypto's and am anxious to try them out too. Were the RBTs worth the price for outdoor skating? In my opinion, not really. Also for what it's worth, I've raced on the RBT 92A and 97A wheels too, and am not impressed with them either... especially for the price tag. But damn, those hubs look waaaay coooool !!!
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Old March 8th, 2013, 11:04 AM   #15
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RBTs as they stand at the moment are *not* made for skating outdoors at all ... what we're talking about here is larger diameter soft urethane so that they *are* suitable for outdoors ... an extra 5mm of urethane on a big hub makes a huge amount of difference!
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Old March 9th, 2013, 12:26 AM   #16
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RBTs as they stand at the moment are *not* made for skating outdoors at all ... what we're talking about here is larger diameter soft urethane so that they *are* suitable for outdoors ... an extra 5mm of urethane on a big hub makes a huge amount of difference!
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RBTs are quite thin on the thane. They would not be anything but a beating for outside skating - pushing all that vibra and energy up into your feet (ouch). Now adding a good amount of thane and you might have a proper outdoor wheel. I always rolled the Variflex back in the day and they were great (there is a lot of thane there)
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Old March 9th, 2013, 12:32 AM   #17
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RBTs are quite thin on the thane. They would not be anything but a beating for outside skating - pushing all that vibra and energy up into your feet (ouch). Now adding a good amount of thane and you might have a proper outdoor wheel. I always rolled the Variflex back in the day and they were great (there is a lot of thane there)
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Thats why I don`t use my Velocity Races where I skate. Not quite smooth enough for those. I prefer a wheel with plenty of thane that is not only soft but has good rebound. For me its Hyper Strada Tom Peterson.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 01:38 AM   #18
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How about some full width speed wheels, same thane, same hub just add a lip.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 01:53 AM   #19
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How about some full width speed wheels, same thane, same hub just add a lip.
Notta bad idea
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Old March 9th, 2013, 03:55 AM   #20
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Pretty Please, Mr. Bones, with sugar on top?
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