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Old July 13th, 2019, 05:20 AM   #1
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Default AOC gets EVISCERATED trying to attack former ICE Director

... an ignorant petulant child wanders into a room of adults.....

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/12/t...Mh6BNMab565xbY
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Old July 13th, 2019, 06:45 AM   #2
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I donít think this needs to be turned into a personal attack. Itís actually a very interesting debate with some key points.

Hoffman relates the separation to criminals who are separated for their families under arrest, Cortez states asylum seekers are not criminals, Hoffman (correctly) points out illegal aliens are not asylum seekers.

Another good point was made in the article that migrants may not have the option of entering through a port to claim asylum if the ports of entry are effectively shut down. You can then argue they are forced to break US law to obtain entry as legal avenues are closed to them.

The most interesting point is what is appropriate in the treatment of vulnerable people with no money or power against the State. In these circumstances is it appropriate or reasonable to remove children from their parents to worsen an already traumatic experience? Is that really how you want a civilised society to behave?
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Old July 13th, 2019, 06:59 AM   #3
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Another good point was made in the article that migrants may not have the option of entering through a port to claim asylum if the ports of entry are effectively shut down. You can then argue they are forced to break US law to obtain entry as legal avenues are closed to them.

No one is forced to do anything. I don't see how you can suggest that we "force" then into an illegal act. You also ignore the fact that they can seek asylum from their own country. No, they come, they fully intend to break the law because doing so offers them an advantage. If their hearing cannot be attended to promptly, the alien must be released somewhere in country.

The most interesting point is what is appropriate in the treatment of vulnerable people with no money or power against the State. In these circumstances is it appropriate or reasonable to remove children from their parents to worsen an already traumatic experience? Is that really how you want a civilised society to behave?
The US, foolishly in my opinion, gives rights to non-citizens. One is due process. But as the former director said clearly, the disposition of family groups is consistent with our judicial process. It is the adult of a group that is guilty of a crime. We are not separating families per se. We are executing justice as we do. The responsible party to the crime is locked up. No child may follow a parent in this process. Customs and Border Patrol is then tasked with the care of the children. Their traumatic experience is no concern of ours.
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Old July 13th, 2019, 12:08 PM   #4
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The US, foolishly in my opinion, gives rights to non-citizens. One is due process. But as the former director said clearly, the disposition of family groups is consistent with our judicial process.

Your opinion got you in the sewer you exist in, keep your opinion to yourself or risk being the fool.(as if)
Trump is breaking laws to make it as difficult for Humans to apppy for asylum as possible, there are laws written that guide officials legally, as to what can and cannot be done with immigrants, Trump is breaking those laws, and scum are supporting his inhumane activities.


It is the adult of a group that is guilty of a crime. We are not separating families per se. We are executing justice as we do. The responsible party to the crime is locked up.

There have been no crimes committed, it's legal to walk into the US and apply for asylum, the crimes being committed are being committed by this administration, these asylum seekers are being unconstitutionaly turned into slaves, the children are being trafficed.

No child may follow a parent in this process. Customs and Border Patrol is then tasked with the care of the children. Their traumatic experience is no concern of ours.
Speak for your mysoginistic self, every sane person on the planet is concerned, and appalled with those that aren't concerned.
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The US, foolishly in my opinion, gives rights to non-citizens. One is due process. But as the former director said clearly, the disposition of family groups is consistent with our judicial process. It is the adult of a group that is guilty of a crime. We are not separating families per se. We are executing justice as we do. The responsible party to the crime is locked up. No child may follow a parent in this process. Customs and Border Patrol is then tasked with the care of the children. Their traumatic experience is no concern of ours.
Some people have zero common sense... you don't take your kids to jail with you..... don't want to go to jail, don't do the crime dumb___!
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Some people have zero common sense... you don't take your kids to jail with you..... don't want to go to jail, don't do the crime dumb___!
Do you not understand that the asylum seekers are perfectly legal?

Is your IQ really half the numer of years you've been crawling this earth?

The only crimes being committed are crimes against humanity by this administration...humanity and the constitution.

A white racist in the White House being supported by Russia and Nazi's and hate and Nazi's and Russians.

Unfortunately, this white racist is losing the support of every American, the only support this white racist has left is the support of Russia, Nazi's and the insane (religious right), basically, this white racist is only supported by hate, and as it hapens, this white racist is only capable of creating hate.

But go ahead, pretend that hate and slavery are the new norm
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Old July 13th, 2019, 08:34 PM   #7
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Some people have zero common sense... you don't take your kids to jail with you..... don't want to go to jail, don't do the crime dumb___!
Not to mention that most of the "parents" are not parents, but just some random adult, that is probably abusing the child, or is trafficking the child.
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