Pacer Crown Plates

watsits · June 16th, 2013, 09:28 PM

Hi Doc I know you're not a fan of Pacer stuff but I have a friend who has a set of Pacer Crown plates that her late mum brought for her and has asked me if I can refurbish them as she wont part with them for anything.
So Questions are what pivot cups would fit these and also what cushions would fit. What amazes me is she is still flying around with things in this condition?
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Doc Sk8 · June 16th, 2013, 09:39 PM

I do believe dvw will know the answers to this one. If he does not chime in in the next day or so, feel free to bug him.

watsits · June 16th, 2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Sk8

I do believe dvw will know the answers to this one. If he does not chime in in the next day or so, feel free to bug him.

Thanks doc The bearings have cleaned up a treat even the plates are looking slightly better. I'm still wondering how she was skating them in this condition?

Poobah · June 17th, 2013, 06:48 AM

If the hair was greasy enough, perhaps it served to lubricate them? If there was hairspray or gel/mousse, that could act like LocTite...

dvw · June 18th, 2013, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by watsits

So Questions are what pivot cups would fit these and also what cushions would fit.

It will be no surprise to know that Pacer pivots fit. But nothing else, I'm afraid.

I have some I'd gladly send you if we can find a way to get them there without it costing a king's ransom.

For cushions, just about any 14mm barrell will work. The Sure Grip supers should fit, and you'd have the option for a conical lower then. I also have some of the OEM rubber ones, but I would dissuade you from using them if you could avoid it.

Snyder reverse kingpins will fit also, and will get you out of the screwdriver business for good.

The plate is otherwise non-spectacular, but it will indeed take on a lovely shine if polished on a muslin wheel with some jeweler's rouge.

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Originally Posted by watsits

What amazes me is she is still flying around with things in this condition?

Wow, those take the cake for largest collection of rink scuzz.

I shudder to know what the rest of the rink looks like.

watsits · June 18th, 2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dvw

It will be no surprise to know that Pacer pivots fit. But nothing else, I'm afraid.

I have some I'd gladly send you if we can find a way to get them there without it costing a king's ransom.

For cushions, just about any 14mm barrell will work. The Sure Grip supers should fit, and you'd have the option for a conical lower then. I also have some of the OEM rubber ones, but I would dissuade you from using them if you could avoid it.

Snyder reverse kingpins will fit also, and will get you out of the screwdriver business for good.

The plate is otherwise non-spectacular, but it will indeed take on a lovely shine if polished on a muslin wheel with some jeweler's rouge.

Wow, those take the cake for largest collection of rink scuzz.

I shudder to know what the rest of the rink looks like.

Thanks I just received a PM but will let you know. The rink we skate at starts very clean to be honest but, is full of kids, very few adults skating. She is one of those skaters the wheels roll so it must be fine types and the bearings had never been cleaned in around 3 years the time she got some new wheels. It looks like the action has never been altered since the day they came out the factory? I asked and just got a blank look and a oh can you.

drasp · April 5th, 2019, 10:46 PM

Howdy All! First post. Sorry to bring back a Zombie thread, but found this forum trying to locate info on these Pacer Crown plates! I’m new to quad skating, decided to go out and find a pair of skates my size on my local CL, ended up with these:

They’re my size, previous owner said they were put together for her husband in the ‘90s. I wanted something solid & USA made, howd I do!? Skated them for the first time the other night, different than rentals, felt fast & smooth. Not sure if the trucks are set up right or not. And they need some break-in, I’d guess. . .

Doc Sk8 · April 6th, 2019, 05:40 PM

Ya done good.

drasp · April 9th, 2019, 02:15 AM

Found the pivot cups crumbled, ordering new cups + Shure-Grip Super cushions!

Any tips on what folks use to adjust flat head kingpins? GIANT screwdriver!? LOL

Doc Sk8 · April 9th, 2019, 06:03 PM

Ditch the king pins. The thread is 3/8 16 UNC. Get a bolt @ the hardware.

drasp · April 10th, 2019, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Sk8

Ditch the king pins. The thread is 3/8 16 UNC. Get a bolt @ the hardware.

Will do!

dvw · April 21st, 2019, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Sk8

Ya done good.

What he said.

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Originally Posted by drasp

Found the pivot cups crumbled, ordering new cups + Shure-Grip Super cushions!

Not surprised at all. You'll like the upgrade.

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Originally Posted by drasp

Any tips on what folks use to adjust flat head kingpins? GIANT screwdriver!? LOL

Chuck 'em. They're soft, they bend easily, and the slots aren't very deep.

I'd go with some of the newer hollow steel Snyder kingpins and a nylock. No more screwdriver ever.

drasp · April 22nd, 2019, 02:54 PM

Thanks for the reply dvw!!!

I picked up some Riedell/PowerDyne “Magic Cushions” as that’s what my local shop had on hand. ID & OD are right. Sadly, the pivot cups they had don’t fit. I was going to just source some generic stainless button head bolts from the local Fastenal, but if I can get a hollow kingpin that would be way cool! I’ll start digging.

drasp · April 26th, 2019, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvw

What he said.

Not surprised at all. You'll like the upgrade.

Chuck 'em. They're soft, they bend easily, and the slots aren't very deep.

I'd go with some of the newer hollow steel Snyder kingpins and a nylock. No more screwdriver ever.

Anyone else have a source for Pacer pivot cups? Not easy to find. There are a few stores online, but the one that clearly advertises the correct parts has a very bad rep.

Mort · April 26th, 2019, 06:34 PM

Avanti trucks and delrin pivots?

Kingpins look a little short.

drasp · April 30th, 2019, 03:29 PM

For now I'm using cut pieces of zip ties to shim the pivot cups I was able to source. Seems to have take up the slop & will hopefully get me by until I can find some proper Pacer pivot cups!

Mort · April 30th, 2019, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by drasp

For now I'm using cut pieces of zip ties to shim the pivot cups I was able to source. Seems to have take up the slop & will hopefully get me by until I can find some proper Pacer pivot cups!

Just use flat washers

dvw · May 11th, 2019, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mort

Avanti trucks and delrin pivots?

Nope. Geometry doesn't match. Pacer is an odd duck.

Mort · May 13th, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dvw

Nope. Geometry doesn't match. Pacer is an odd duck.

Looks close, if SG probe tricks fit that plate, so would the new avanti's , did you get to try them/test fit?

Doc Sk8 · May 16th, 2019, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mort

Looks close, if SG probe tricks fit that plate, so would the new avanti's , did you get to try them/test fit?

dvw is as good if not better @ this than I am. I'd make book on it.

June 16th, 2013, 09:28 PM	#1
watsits Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Manchester (UK) Posts: 131	Pacer Crown Plates Hi Doc I know you're not a fan of Pacer stuff but I have a friend who has a set of Pacer Crown plates that her late mum brought for her and has asked me if I can refurbish them as she wont part with them for anything. So Questions are what pivot cups would fit these and also what cushions would fit. What amazes me is she is still flying around with things in this condition? [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]

June 16th, 2013, 09:39 PM	#2
Doc Sk8 Yankee Catfish Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Big hill on Mars Posts: 12,156	I do believe dvw will know the answers to this one. If he does not chime in in the next day or so, feel free to bug him. __________________ "The difference between good skates and great skates comes from knowing where to get the numbers."

June 17th, 2013, 06:48 AM	#4
Poobah Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,272	If the hair was greasy enough, perhaps it served to lubricate them? If there was hairspray or gel/mousse, that could act like LocTite... __________________ *~[ Grand Poobah Stats Geek

April 6th, 2019, 05:40 PM	#8
Doc Sk8 Yankee Catfish Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Big hill on Mars Posts: 12,156	I'd say Ya done good. __________________ "The difference between good skates and great skates comes from knowing where to get the numbers."

April 9th, 2019, 06:03 PM	#10
Doc Sk8 Yankee Catfish Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Big hill on Mars Posts: 12,156	Ditch the king pins. The thread is 3/8 16 UNC. Get a bolt @ the hardware. __________________ "The difference between good skates and great skates comes from knowing where to get the numbers."

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April 5th, 2019, 10:46 PM	#7
drasp Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 10	Howdy All! First post. Sorry to bring back a Zombie thread, but found this forum trying to locate info on these Pacer Crown plates! I’m new to quad skating, decided to go out and find a pair of skates my size on my local CL, ended up with these: They’re my size, previous owner said they were put together for her husband in the ‘90s. I wanted something solid & USA made, howd I do!? Skated them for the first time the other night, different than rentals, felt fast & smooth. Not sure if the trucks are set up right or not. And they need some break-in, I’d guess. . .

April 9th, 2019, 02:15 AM	#9
drasp Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 10	Found the pivot cups crumbled, ordering new cups + Shure-Grip Super cushions! Any tips on what folks use to adjust flat head kingpins? GIANT screwdriver!? LOL

April 22nd, 2019, 02:54 PM	#13
drasp Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 10	Thanks for the reply dvw!!! I picked up some Riedell/PowerDyne “Magic Cushions” as that’s what my local shop had on hand. ID & OD are right. Sadly, the pivot cups they had don’t fit. I was going to just source some generic stainless button head bolts from the local Fastenal, but if I can get a hollow kingpin that would be way cool! I’ll start digging.

April 26th, 2019, 06:34 PM	#15
Mort Sk8 Ninja Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Huntington Wv Posts: 3,647	I wonder.. Avanti trucks and delrin pivots? Kingpins look a little short. __________________ Home rink: Roll-A-Rama in Huntington Wv. "Focus on form and speed is a byproduct, focus on speed and falling is a byproduct." - Matguy

April 30th, 2019, 03:29 PM	#16
drasp Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 10	For now I'm using cut pieces of zip ties to shim the pivot cups I was able to source. Seems to have take up the slop & will hopefully get me by until I can find some proper Pacer pivot cups!

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