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Old January 22nd, 2009, 08:22 AM   #21
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Randy, what you are describing- the "double pump" with both front wheels of the trailing foot staying on the floor- was pretty much the norm at my rink "back in the day" (mid-70's to mid-80's) and we generally referred to it as "boogie skating".

The more upright style of shuffle skating seemed to become popular as the bigger (62 mm) wheels came into style in the 80's- the older style of skating just seemed like it was better suited to the smaller wheels.

I know that I used to run smaller wheels and my front trucks as loose as they'd go, and that would let your trail foot not just "double pump", but also go side-to-side while keeping the front wheels on the ground.

With the big speed wheels and tight trucks I use now, you just don't seem to be able to get the same action from the trailing foot. Or, maybe it's just because I'm 20 years older than I was back then...

Brett yes the trailing front two wheels but instead of just bringing them back you pump twice sort of like what a dj does when he is scratching (for lack of better description) ...The girls shuffled and the guys boogie bounced here but only 3 got the dble pump down pat ( in our rink) and i have seen two others since able to do it Andy @ zoomers and Marlon @ kettering ...being old school and watching others skate nowadays I cant get past the 'they skate like the girls did back in the day" thinking..lol BUT whatever! as long as people are skating does it matter ?....lol
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 07:26 PM   #22
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In our rink back in the day only the girls did the double pump on the left foot. The guys never did any double pump and we had a few different styles. I teach boogie skate lessons at our rink on Sundays and will teach the double pump if they want to learn that but for the most part I stick to a very basic style when teaching. Andy pretty much stays with the double pump since that was the main style at his old home rink. Skating style does change over the years to a degree and the kids tend to butcher the old moves. In my opinion the double pump is something you either do right or not at all and I was never a fan of the way it looks to begin with. Most people are just to rough and jerky when it should be smooth.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 07:37 PM   #23
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In our rink back in the day only the girls did the double pump on the left foot. The guys never did any double pump and we had a few different styles. I teach boogie skate lessons at our rink on Sundays and will teach the double pump if they want to learn that but for the most part I stick to a very basic style when teaching. Andy pretty much stays with the double pump since that was the main style at his old home rink. Skating style does change over the years to a degree and the kids tend to butcher the old moves. In my opinion the double pump is something you either do right or not at all and I was never a fan of the way it looks to begin with. Most people are just to rough and jerky when it should be smooth.

like i said Craig most cant get it right, dble pumping to look good needs to be done with both feet.. i think i stated all 4 front wheels in my prior post but it means both feet.. I'm sure you noticed me doing this when my endurance was up at a particular few min here and there.lol and you're right it needs to be smooth not jerky the kids in that video has hacked it to death but atleast they try.lol
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 07:53 PM   #24
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the worst shuffle IMO ? its a toss up between just throwing foot back(wheels never touching the floor) or the i'm gonna put each foot back and make each of my 4 wheels roll with me.lol
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Double Pumping = Out , In, Out, In Crossover?
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 09:08 PM   #26
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Double Pumping = Out , In, Out, In Crossover?

My definition and likes of the variation is when you bring the two front wheels back "intact with the floor" THEN pump twice on beat behind your leading foot .. if you watch the kids in the video they pump " or try".lol on the outside during the crossover as you describe check video around 1 min 25 sec they want to do it IMO (properly) but they bend their knee out too far thus causing the ankle to bend or vice versa and i can tell their wheels wasn't flat in doing so
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My definition and likes of the variation is when you bring the two front wheels back "intact with the floor" THEN pump twice on beat behind your leading foot .. if you watch the kids in the video they pump " or try".lol on the outside during the crossover as you describe check video around 1 min 25 sec they want to do it IMO (properly) but they bend their knee out too far thus causing the ankle to bend or vice versa and i can tell their wheels wasn't flat in doing so
Yeah thats not what i was thinking it was.... i use that double pump in shuffle routines but not in the turns... i dont like that...LOL. What i thought you were reffering to was when all 8 wheels are on the floor then you puch out then in then out then in and then cross. Alot of old schoolers still do it that way at my rink.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:03 PM   #28
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Yeah thats not what i was thinking it was.... i use that double pump in shuffle routines but not in the turns... i dont like that...LOL. What i thought you were reffering to was when all 8 wheels are on the floor then you puch out then in then out then in and then cross. Alot of old schoolers still do it that way at my rink.

yeah... I have learned a lot of styles is a regional thing and even a rink by rink thing.. so i don't sweat it like i used too Besides I'm not into the i can do what you can do/ but you cant do what i can mentality( which used to be the case ) lol when i was growing up you generally had 4+ groups who skated together and it was a constant battle who owned the turf.lol
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Yeah thats not what i was thinking it was.... i use that double pump in shuffle routines but not in the turns... i dont like that...LOL. What i thought you were reffering to was when all 8 wheels are on the floor then you puch out then in then out then in and then cross. Alot of old schoolers still do it that way at my rink.
How bout that old school sway? And that backward cross over lean?
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:54 PM   #30
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Besides I'm not into the i can do what you can do/ but you cant do what i can mentality
You trying to stir up trouble AGAIN?????
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 11:08 PM   #31
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You trying to stir up trouble AGAIN?????
LOL no Paul I'm Merely saying in the day we had contests and it was well proven during that time who did what the others did but the others couldn't do what some others could do.lol It's tough being a has been ya know ?
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:15 AM   #33
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I do a dumb double-pump but I always wanted to know how to do the 'all 8 wheels on the floor while on the straight track' double pump.

At the moment, when I double pump it's when I skate and I'll push myself forward and I lag my pushing foot to the side and a little behind on the inside edge then bring it back in then back out, shift my weight onto it while I push off with the opposite foot, etc etc.

I can't tell but I think it's lame looking.

Someone tell me how to do the cool 8-wheel double pump! I've always wanted to learn but I've only seen one guy at my rink do it and he can't explain it and I've tried to figure it out on my own, but.... well... I can't.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:29 AM   #34
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I do a dumb double-pump but I always wanted to know how to do the 'all 8 wheels on the floor while on the straight track' double pump.

At the moment, when I double pump it's when I skate and I'll push myself forward and I lag my pushing foot to the side and a little behind on the inside edge then bring it back in then back out, shift my weight onto it while I push off with the opposite foot, etc etc.

I can't tell but I think it's lame looking.

Someone tell me how to do the cool 8-wheel double pump! I've always wanted to learn but I've only seen one guy at my rink do it and he can't explain it and I've tried to figure it out on my own, but.... well... I can't.

I'm not sure the dble pump you speak of is the same movement that i have tried to described ,It would be virtually impossible with 4 wheels let alone 8
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we call it trucking ill try to get the link on here to show yall
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here it is http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoid=8765625
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 08:29 AM   #37
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The kid asked how to shuffle and got alot of info. I am lost as to what most of you are trying to explain and I know what your trying to explain. haha

Shuffle skating is just bouncing to the beat. If you sit in a chair and bounce side to side to a beat(pick the beat you feel comfortable to).

Now pick up the opposite foot from the one you are bouncing. e

(you bounce right, you pick up left foot)
(you bounce left, you pick up your right foot.)

Corners are basically stepping over and holding the beat.


Simply put..basic shuffle is bouncing back in forth to a beat which gives the name bounce skating to some skaters.

PS: Someone said the dragging of the foot. AHHHH I hate that. Pet Peeve. That was very popular in the 80's or to new skaters. Best shuffle skating uses edges and looks smooth.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 08:10 PM   #38
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The kid asked how to shuffle and got alot of info. I am lost as to what most of you are trying to explain and I know what your trying to explain. haha

Shuffle skating is just bouncing to the beat. If you sit in a chair and bounce side to side to a beat(pick the beat you feel comfortable to).

Now pick up the opposite foot from the one you are bouncing. e

(you bounce right, you pick up left foot)
(you bounce left, you pick up your right foot.)

Corners are basically stepping over and holding the beat.


Simply put..basic shuffle is bouncing back in forth to a beat which gives the name bounce skating to some skaters.

PS: Someone said the dragging of the foot. AHHHH I hate that. Pet Peeve. That was very popular in the 80's or to new skaters. Best shuffle skating uses edges and looks smooth.

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Can you teach me that next time you come up to RollerJam USA & BBP....

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Old January 23rd, 2009, 08:19 PM   #39
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^ who are you? haha
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 09:51 PM   #40
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dae just told me who u are..lol

u never answer if I call. so u call me..haha
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