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Ask DocSk8 (Expert Indoor Skate Building Advice) This forum is different then the other SkateLog forums in that it is not a discussion forum, but rather a place you can ask skate building expert Fred "DocSk8" Benjamin about building and repairing indoor speed, derby, and jamskate quad roller skates. Please start a new thread for each new question.

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Old October 9th, 2012, 02:29 PM   #1
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Hey Doc,

I'm looking to mount an avenger plate to my size 5 MG2 Antiks. I'd like to do a short forward mount but I'm not sure what size plate to buy. I've also heard about a sport mount. What exactly is the difference?
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Old October 9th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #2
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Hey Doc,

I'm looking to mount an avenger plate to my size 5 MG2 Antiks.

Sounds like fun...

I'd like to do a short forward mount but I'm not sure what size plate to buy.

I'd use a 1...

I've also heard about a sport mount. What exactly is the difference?
Depending on who is doing the building, the size 1 may be a "sport" mount.

Let me clarify this whole mount thing...

The short forward thing started showing up here in 2006 ( I joined in October 2007 when we moved Ask Doc Sk8 to skatelogforum.) when I built sk8s for some members..


Short by definition is any plate with a wheel base that is shorter than the wheelbase recommended by the industry. Period... Recommend wheelbase lengths are all over the industry and can be dug out if effort is made... Do note that Sure Grip actually recommends Short Forward for the Avenger..


Forward means the front axle is ahead of the center of the ball of the foot. Period...


The terminology "sport mount" came from one of the Roll Line reps to describe a short plate that was not as short as I typically built...but still mounted forward of the ball of the foot..

My short forward?? Short is 3/4 to 1" shorter than the old school recommended length. For example the "most common recommended" wheelbase for my size 9 sk8 is 7". I prefer 6-6 1/4" with 6 3/8" being the outside and this depends mostly on the plates style of action.... But note, any wheel base shorter than 7" is short.... and my lower limit on short is not necessarily your lower limit.

Forward is just at the front of the ball of the foot, not centered under it... but any amount forward of the center of the ball of the foot is forward..

Some folks on here make a big deal about where the rear axle falls under the heel... I pay very little attention to that because the front axle location and wheel base defines where the back axle falls in relation to the heel..

Since short forward is pretty much my terminology, I get to be the ultimate definer
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One last thing. DO NOT use a Snyder tool to mount shorter plates ahead of the center of the ball of the foot. You will NOT get optimum results.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #3
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Great explanation Doc. Wish that could be a 'sticky' somewhere.......


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Old October 9th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #4
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Great explanation Doc. Wish that could be a 'sticky' somewhere.......
Howzat??
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Old October 9th, 2012, 07:06 PM   #5
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Old November 13th, 2012, 09:38 AM   #6
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The short forward thing started showing up here in 2006 .
I was skating a size 5 Black Diamond plate under a size 11 595 back in 1983!
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Old November 13th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #7
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I was skating a size 5 Black Diamond plate under a size 11 595 back in 1983!
Sizes do not interchange between plates.. Any idea what the wheel base was??
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:31 AM   #8
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Sizes do not interchange between plates.. Any idea what the wheel base was??
It was right about 6.5 inches if memory serves.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 02:43 PM   #9
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It was right about 6.5 inches if memory serves.

About 5mm shorter than I would like on an 11, but certainly not unheard of.. even back in the day...
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Old November 14th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #10
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I was skating a size 5 Black Diamond plate under a size 11 595 back in 1983!
Man. I was only 1 then. But on skates a year after that. You guys make me feel like a little kid.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 06:53 PM   #11
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Man. I was only 1 then. But on skates a year after that. You guys make me feel like a little kid.
In 83, I was in doing a short tour in Korea. I had already been in the Air Force 12 years...
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Haha. Sorry for making you feel old. And hijacking the thread. Thank you for the good explanation on the terms short forward and sport mount.
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