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Old October 10th, 2008, 03:13 PM   #1
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I thought I'd start a post collecting weights of different brand and model quad plates. To make it an apples-to-apples comparison I'd like to collect weights of plates of the same wheelbase together.

This is the weight of the plates with cushions, trucks, and axle nuts included, but WITHOUT wheels or toe stops.

I'll start things off by posting weights of my size 160 Roll-Line Driver and Mistral/Navigator plates. If anyone else posts weights I'll add them to this post.
  • Roll-Line Driver, size 160: 526 g (18.6 oz)
  • Roll-Line Mistral, size 160: 495 g (17.5 oz)
  • Roll-Line Mistral 160, drilled to lighten it: 445 g (15.7 oz)
  • Roll-Line Variant, size 160: 485 g (17.1 oz)
  • 16 Atlas Figure E97: 550 g (19.4 oz)
  • 6 Ultimate II: 388 g (13.7 oz)
  • 154 Boen: 306 g (10.8 oz)
  • 156mm Powerdyne Reactor: 397 g (14 oz)
  • Kiwimaster's Carbon Plates with boen trucks/kingpins, length 165: 275 g (9.7 oz)
  • Sure Grip Super white magnums, length 155: 400 g
  • Sure Grip Super white magnums with toe stops cut off, length 155: 340 g

Plates with lengths other than 160
  • Labeda Proline 725 (184mm): 408 g (14.4 oz)
  • Sure Grip Super White Magnums Size 5 (173 mm) 17oz/482g

Interesting that the extra $100 for Navigators instead of Drivers buys you a 1 oz weight savings.

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Old October 10th, 2008, 04:12 PM   #2
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I thought I'd start a post collecting weights of different brand and model quad plates. To make it an apples-to-apples comparison I'd like to collect weights of plates of the same wheelbase together. This will be the weight of the plates with cushions and trucks installed, but with wheels, wheel nuts, and toe stops removed.

I'll start things off by posting weights of my size 160 Roll-Line Driver and Mistral/Navigator plates. If anyone else posts weights I'll add them to this post.
  • Roll-Line Driver, size 160: 511 g (18 oz)
  • Roll-Line Mistral (same as Navigator), size 160: 480 g (16.9 oz)

Interesting that the extra $100 for Navigators instead of Drivers buys you a 1 oz weight savings.
The Navigators also have left and right toe stops. The Driver does not. The Driver and Variant are the same plate, (plate only, not king pins here) just different coatings. The Navigator shape requires more machining as do the toe stops. This is where the cost increase comes in.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 04:54 PM   #3
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The Navigators also have left and right toe stops. The Driver does not. The Driver and Variant are the same plate, (plate only, not king pins here) just different coatings. The Navigator shape requires more machining as do the toe stops. This is where the cost increase comes in.
Thanks. I agree totally. It's obvious comparing the Driver and Navigator side by side that the Navigator plates are more complicated to manufacture, so I was in no way meaning to imply that Roll-Line is trying to rip anyone off. It's just that, since I just use jam plugs, the only relevant difference for me is the weight.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 04:57 PM   #4
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So why did we put a Gator on your sk8s?? We could have done Giotto... It is even lighter....
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Old October 10th, 2008, 05:28 PM   #5
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So why did we put a Gator on your sk8s?? We could have done Giotto... It is even lighter....
What's a Gator?

I got Drivers on the skates I got from you. I considered going to a Giotto, but have found that I actually like tapping my toe plugs a lot when jam skating, so I think I'll stay away from NTS plates.

I'm going to replace the Drivers with the Navigators I just bought, which will be straightforward since they're same size. Then I'm planning to mount the Drivers on my other pair of 811s, which currently have size 9 Reactors. I keep one pair of skates setup for outdoor and one for indoor, but I've found that I like my Roll-Line shod skates so much better that I end up just switching between indoor and outdoor wheels on them rather than use the Reactors, so I decided I need Roll-Lines on both sets of skates. It'll be my first attempt at mounting plates, but since it's exactly the same boots and plate size as the set you put together for me, I can just copy the mount location from your set.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:00 PM   #6
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What's a Gator?
It is a big green thing with lots of teeth that hangs out in swamps and likes to eat golfers.

Just kidding... I think he means (Navi)Gator.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:04 PM   #7
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I think he means (Navi)Gator.
Oh, duh!
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:13 PM   #8
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:36 PM   #9
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:41 PM   #10
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Yeah (Navi)gator. Sorry, I have built a couple of pair of sk8s and my senile mind is slipping.....
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Old October 10th, 2008, 07:08 PM   #11
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bilboa, how exactly did you weigh your plates - like were they complete with the axle nuts? Toe stop/plug in or out, etc?

Here's a few of my own that are in that same size range (all were weighed complete with all parts and the axle nuts on them and no stops or plugs):

160 Variant - 17.1 oz
160 Driver - 18.8 oz
160 Mistral with a bunch of metal drilled out of it - 15.7
16 Atlas Figure E97 - 19.4 oz
6 Ultimate II - 13.7 oz
154 Boen - 10.8 oz
156mm Powerdyne Reactor - 14oz

I have found (and bilboa's info confirms it a bit more) that Roll Line plates vary quite a bit from plate to plate even when you have the exact same model and same size. I have not been able to find any differences that I can see when this happens, which only leads me to beleive that there are some differences in the actual metal being used. I know the different models use different metals - but that doesn't explain the difference between the exact same size and model.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 08:17 PM   #12
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bilboa, how exactly did you weigh your plates - like were they complete with the axle nuts? Toe stop/plug in or out, etc?
I weighed the plate with cushions and trucks installed, but WITHOUT wheels, axle nuts, or toe stops/plugs. Since your measurements are with axle nuts, I can weigh mine again with axle nuts too. Or I could just weigh my axle nuts and subtract that from your numbers. Thanks for the info. I'll add it to my list.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 05:15 PM   #13
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I weighed my Labeda Prolines for you, with axle nuts, without stoppers.

Labeda Proline 725 (184mm) 14.4 oz per plate
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Old January 10th, 2009, 06:08 PM   #14
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Default kiwi style...carbon plates

My Carbon plates with boen trucks/kingpins weighs 275g,size 165.
Thats 9.7oz.
These are the plates we made back in 1991,we can go lighter now if we make the boot from carbon as the plate does not have to resist as much twisting,the boot can do that now.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 06:10 PM   #15
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Old January 10th, 2009, 10:23 PM   #16
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Okay, I 'm really confused now. The Variant @17.1 oz. weighs LESS than the NAV @ 17.5 ? Isn't the point of going up in plate grade to lose weight???
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Old January 10th, 2009, 11:19 PM   #17
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My size 3 super white magnums (with the toe stops cut off) 155mm wheel base weigh 340 grams, almost a light as a boen.

They were 400g before I went to town, not including the stoppers.

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Old January 10th, 2009, 11:45 PM   #18
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Sure Grip Super White Magnums Size 5 (173 mm) 17oz/482g
(with nuts/axles/yellow trucks/yellow cushions) no toe stops

Sure Grip XK-4 Size 6 (182mm) 21.4oz/606g

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Old January 11th, 2009, 12:31 AM   #19
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Time to find a good postage scale (or someone that uses) to get the weight of my NTS Pro-line. This actually is a good reason to pull them off, it's only 4 screws anyways.
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Old January 11th, 2009, 01:24 AM   #20
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Hi Kiwimaster,
in your last post you have the blue writing section and you mention Brian Davis ex Bont Boot maker.
I use to work with Brian at bont and then for many years after I would train and race with Brian on the Ice.
Yeap Brian makes an excellent boot but I didn't think he was making them anymore and quads well that is news to my happy ears if he is.
Or are you referring to Bonts Carbon boots and those being stiff?
Do tell..... quick quick the waiting is making my bearings spin out of control.

Look forward to hearing more soon,
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