Hey, how about these quad skates for ramps?

roller_dudette · May 1st, 2007, 02:03 AM

http://skaterbros.com/product_info.p...products_id=34

I thought these boots looked like they would hold ruff street and ramp skating.

How do these plates compare to Super X plates - Supreme Roller narrow ramp trucks - Hanger 2 7/8" - Axle 5 2/8"?

I guess I cant put a grind bar on those plates but I like the boot! Streeta skates will be my next big thing I save up for if I keep loving the street skating and start really getting into the ramps.

Demolishun · May 1st, 2007, 02:10 AM

Those look "stout" if that is what you are asking. They still look like quads though. I think I would rather have an aggressive boot with those trucks I saw the other day that will take skateboard wheels. Then the boots would look strong. Then again you have useless weight in the grind areas.

Maybe those boots would be better with those trucks. Maybe the width makes them look stronger. You can also grind down the center.

s243a · May 1st, 2007, 02:11 AM

I’m sure they will work. If you want though to get as close to an aggressive skate as possible, you want something with a low center of gravity. You want something that locks the lower part of your foot in good but allows some flex at the calf.

roller_dudette · May 1st, 2007, 02:28 AM

I was thiking I could change it to ramp trucks and put on a grind bar.

http://www.rollergirl.ca/usdcart/index.php/cPath/25_32

Maybe I can just get the boots then have her set them up for aggressive or she could get those boots for me. Those boots look really supportive though and like they would take a beating!

Tomorrow I'm trying the ramps again, so I still have time and need time to save anyway. But since it takes me 2 months to decide, lol.......

Yeah, my cheapo boots for outside are already looking OLD, lol.

roller_dudette · May 1st, 2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s243a

I’m sure they will work. If you want though to get as close to an aggressive skate as possible, you want something with a low center of gravity. You want something that locks the lower part of your foot in good but allows some flex at the calf.

Could you clairfy this? I was thinking of if I could get a used pair of roller hockey skates maybe, just put on those wider ramp trucks with the grind bar, would that work? ARe all hockey set ups with the trucks set 1/2 inch forward? Is this necessary I think?

I think I"ll be getting into ramps, maybe some grinds, lots of street skating/jumping, but I'll leave the jumping on rails for you guys. I'm not sure what I need though.

roller_dudette · May 1st, 2007, 08:01 PM

And is it hard to change to ramp trucks? I think that would be easy!

Demolishun · May 2nd, 2007, 01:34 AM

Some day I am going to see what it would take to put those ramp trucks or skateboard trucks on my aggressive skates. My wife would kill me if I spent another $200 for trucks and wheels and have to build an adapter plate!

I am already looking into getting a different frame when it comes out that allows for grinding and flat setup. There is a very nice aluminum frame that has a huge center grind spot. Anyway, just go for it. Just ask enough questions of the lady that has the ramp trucks, and see if she can build you some with the boots you want. Worse case you buy them separate and have to assemble them yourself.

Just make sure you model them and take a picture of the skates for us to critique. We can ooh and ahh about how good they look, then we can ooh an ahh about the skates too (think about that one).

roller_dudette · May 2nd, 2007, 02:08 AM

Oh man, ramp skating is crazy fun! So it looks like I need to do something, one of my toes will have air conditioning soon, lol. And the guys at the park were making fun of my "art" skates. But the dominions I have are super flimsy. My feet are all over the place. I love the support of my reidells so I assume these have the same standards, plus they are built to last.

I'm not planning on getting too much into grinding yet. Just stalls, some grinding eventually on top of the ramp, plus they are helpful for drop ins. I'll probably do jumps off of ramps before I get into grinding much. I love jumps!

I think the wide trucks are also more stable? I know nothing about aggressive skates really. And now I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, right? Opps!

But I am going to look into used boots too, but seems like only 2 types of plates go with those trucks. I need to see if I can come up with another $200 though quick it seems. Thats how much boots and plates themselves would cost me.

Gosh, didnt know I would end up with a hole in my wallet once I started skating, lol! Cant wait to go back to Disney World again, uh, um, I mean the skate park! Yeah, I am doing the mini ramps now, woo-hoo, lol. OK, still suck but that now places me as #1 aggressive roller skating girl in all of Maryland. (OK, no competition, but whose counting?)

keefertoro · May 6th, 2007, 05:22 PM

there way out of my price range ...

roller_dudette · May 7th, 2007, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keefertoro

there way out of my price range ...

Good thing U arent into speed skating, rofl! Add another 0 to that then.

Yeah, its scary man!

But now I think I'll stick with these:
http://www.rollergirl.ca/usdcart/pro...products_id/41

I tried on some hockey boots. Seems like with Bauer I wear a size 5, which is too small for Riedell since they start with 6. Plus those guys were RIGID! And for the most part fit good. The sides didnt bend in snug like I like them but I'm sure they break in after awhile. Probably will have to put my orthotics in them to get a snug fit around my foot. They also had vents in them which would be cooler. But her boots are supposed to be more flexible, so they should work and fit perfectly. I cant wait!!

So now should I get the PowerDyne almuminum plate or stick with the Sure Grip Super-X? I want to jump and think the Super-X might be heavy, but it would be more responsive I think. Right now I have marathon IVs nylon plates and those things arent as responsive as I like.

tmezz · May 9th, 2007, 07:46 PM

Hey Dudette,
The wider trucks will be more stable on the ramps, but harder to use on the flats. I like the hocky boots I have on my skates and they work really well. I only lace them up to just above my ankle where my skates have an extra stap that goes down to the heel and pulls the foot back. Only lacing partway up gives more freedom to move your ankle but plenty of support for stability when landing on the ramp or grinding.
Hockey boots have thier own sizing unlike any other boots so it can be hard to find the right size, trying them on is the only sure way.
As for plates the Sure-Grips Super-X would be fine, but you might want to look at the Sure-Grip Competitor plates also they are not much more money but they are supposed to be a little lighter and the wider trucks will fit them.
Have fun!!!

roller_dudette · May 9th, 2007, 08:28 PM

Well, I dont think the competitors will fit those trucks. I think Im getting the PowerDyne nylon plate so it wont be too heavy for me to jump and all. Or I could do Suregrip Probe but I heard that plate flexes bigtime and sucks. So still not sure what to do. Just since I'm tiny, I need all the help I can get in lowering the weight in the skate dept.

Yeah, I cant wait!! My boots now for outside are so darn big its misery. I'm sliding all over in them. I like them snug.

Demolishun · May 10th, 2007, 02:03 AM

roller_dudette,
"Guns, lots of guns..." err, I mean, "Socks, lots of socks...".

roller_dudette · May 10th, 2007, 02:16 AM

Guns?

ROFL!

Yeah, thick socks man, real thick, lol!

Well, if things go good tomorrow, seeing the dentist,

and I go home for free this time, I'll be putting my order in soon!

So what its going to look like is probably PD nylons, with the Magnum Spoiler Light-weight flexible hockey boots, and once I get up those ramps I'll upgrade to the Supreme Roller narrow ramp trucks. Then I might also think about smaller, lighter weight wheels too. I have krytonics 70. Soft ride but I like them easy to turn!

Then my feet will be COOL!

Right now they are hot mamas, lol! But I'll ask Lisa bout those plates. Who knows, it might be a probe.

RS Dave · May 10th, 2007, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roller_dudette

Well, I dont think the competitors will fit those trucks. I think Im getting the PowerDyne nylon plate so it wont be too heavy for me to jump and all. Or I could do Suregrip Probe but I heard that plate flexes bigtime and sucks. So still not sure what to do. Just since I'm tiny, I need all the help I can get in lowering the weight in the skate dept.

Yeah, I cant wait!! My boots now for outside are so darn big its misery. I'm sliding all over in them. I like them snug.

Hi Dudette,

If you want to be rolling up and down ramps and such, don't get a plastic/nylon plate. In a few months time you will have trashed it and be out your hard earned money. Stick with aluminum plates for ramp and aggressive skating. Your concern over the Super X plate being too heavy is really unwarranted because your feet are so small. The little dinky plates you will be using won't weigh diddley. You will likely be able to reuse the plates for several pairs of boots (with the occasional replacing the cushions and pivot cups of course). Rollergirl Lisa is a friend of mine. She'll look after you well.

roller_dudette · May 10th, 2007, 04:44 AM

RollerSkater Dave, shes doing my skates and suggested the nylons. Shes good so I'm kinda leaving it up to her unless I can really make a solid decision. So far she hasnt given me bad advise. Only good.

She said she skated on nylons and shes much bigger then I am and liked them and said they were much lighter. So trashing them isnt a concern. She thinks the wide trucks would be too heavy for me considering my size and I want to do that eventually. As soon as my shoulder heals and I get those skates, I want to really do ramps and eventually get into handplants, jumps and spins, get some aire. So not sure what to do. I dont weigh a lot and even she says the aggressive ones are heavy for her. I would wear a 6 though she thinks in those boots. I wear a 5 in Riedells though but those are built big. So my feet arent necessarily tiny. Tell me more. I'm confused.

I live to skate so I want to be happy.

roller_dudette · May 11th, 2007, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmezz

Hey Dudette,
The wider trucks will be more stable on the ramps, but harder to use on the flats. I like the hocky boots I have on my skates and they work really well. I only lace them up to just above my ankle where my skates have an extra stap that goes down to the heel and pulls the foot back. Only lacing partway up gives more freedom to move your ankle but plenty of support for stability when landing on the ramp or grinding.
Hockey boots have thier own sizing unlike any other boots so it can be hard to find the right size, trying them on is the only sure way.
As for plates the Sure-Grips Super-X would be fine, but you might want to look at the Sure-Grip Competitor plates also they are not much more money but they are supposed to be a little lighter and the wider trucks will fit them.
Have fun!!!

So are you sure the Supreme Roller narrow ramp trucks will fit? Is there much difference in weight compared to the nylon?

I guess I'll have to call Lisa. How do they handle differently, the nylon from the aluminum? Is there any difference in stability once you add on the grind bar, etc? I want to make a decision asap cause I have the money for them!!!!!!

And I guess turning is not an issue even with tight trucks which go straight? I guess thats an ignorant question but I'm coming from an artistic background and all turning is based upon an edge.

roller_dudette · May 11th, 2007, 01:25 AM

One more thing, isnt the competitor an art plate? Is it shorter?

Any preferences between the nylon probe and powerdyne? I'm still baffled what to decide.

tmezz · May 11th, 2007, 03:26 PM

The plates (Super-X and Competitor) are similar and use the same trucks. They have the same kingpin and pivot geometry so if the trucks would fit the Super-X they would fit the Competitor. At least that is what I have gathered from people I haven't bought new trucks for mine YET that is part of my evil plan for the future. The biggest differences are supposed to be the finish of the plates and the alloy used to cast them which I have been told is a little lighter (not alot) in the Competitor.
From the skating I have done I would think you would be happier on a metal plate even taking into account your small weight. The feel of the plate will be more like your artistic skates so you will be more comfortable on them from the get go and their durability will be greater while the fleaxbilty will be less. i find that the more stable my foot is the more confident I am that I can pull something off. Any flex in the plate would tend to throw me off balance. The first skates I built ( a long time ago ina galaxy far far away...)used "Chucks" (Chuck Taylor hightop canvas sneakers - ask your Dad) for boots and untill I added an internal plate to stiffen the sole they really messed me up. Anyway that is MESHO.

roller_dudette · May 11th, 2007, 04:14 PM

Thanks, might get those. But I'm concerned since I want to do handplants and jumps on the ramps that the weight will feel like bricks. Doesnt the grind bar stabilize it? Think I wont go for wide trucks to begin with. Still a newbie. And for changing plates if I'm not happy, you just screw them off and screw on the new ones right? I might order today.......

I might talk to Lisa and see what she says. But since I'm comfie with the artistic ones, which are metal, might be more comfie with the same idea.

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May 1st, 2007, 02:03 AM	#1
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	Hey, how about these quad skates for ramps? http://skaterbros.com/product_info.p...products_id=34 I thought these boots looked like they would hold ruff street and ramp skating. How do these plates compare to Super X plates - Supreme Roller narrow ramp trucks - Hanger 2 7/8" - Axle 5 2/8"? I guess I cant put a grind bar on those plates but I like the boot! Streeta skates will be my next big thing I save up for if I keep loving the street skating and start really getting into the ramps.

May 1st, 2007, 02:10 AM	#2
Demolishun Aggro Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,868	Those look "stout" if that is what you are asking. They still look like quads though. I think I would rather have an aggressive boot with those trucks I saw the other day that will take skateboard wheels. Then the boots would look strong. Then again you have useless weight in the grind areas. Maybe those boots would be better with those trucks. Maybe the width makes them look stronger. You can also grind down the center.

May 1st, 2007, 02:11 AM	#3
s243a Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 981	I’m sure they will work. If you want though to get as close to an aggressive skate as possible, you want something with a low center of gravity. You want something that locks the lower part of your foot in good but allows some flex at the calf.

May 1st, 2007, 02:28 AM	#4
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	I was thiking I could change it to ramp trucks and put on a grind bar. http://www.rollergirl.ca/usdcart/index.php/cPath/25_32 Maybe I can just get the boots then have her set them up for aggressive or she could get those boots for me. Those boots look really supportive though and like they would take a beating! Tomorrow I'm trying the ramps again, so I still have time and need time to save anyway. But since it takes me 2 months to decide, lol....... Yeah, my cheapo boots for outside are already looking OLD, lol.

May 1st, 2007, 08:01 PM	#6
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	And is it hard to change to ramp trucks? I think that would be easy!

May 2nd, 2007, 01:34 AM	#7
Demolishun Aggro Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,868	Some day I am going to see what it would take to put those ramp trucks or skateboard trucks on my aggressive skates. My wife would kill me if I spent another $200 for trucks and wheels and have to build an adapter plate! I am already looking into getting a different frame when it comes out that allows for grinding and flat setup. There is a very nice aluminum frame that has a huge center grind spot. Anyway, just go for it. Just ask enough questions of the lady that has the ramp trucks, and see if she can build you some with the boots you want. Worse case you buy them separate and have to assemble them yourself. Just make sure you model them and take a picture of the skates for us to critique. We can ooh and ahh about how good they look, then we can ooh an ahh about the skates too (think about that one).

May 2nd, 2007, 02:08 AM	#8
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	Oh man, ramp skating is crazy fun! So it looks like I need to do something, one of my toes will have air conditioning soon, lol. And the guys at the park were making fun of my "art" skates. But the dominions I have are super flimsy. My feet are all over the place. I love the support of my reidells so I assume these have the same standards, plus they are built to last. I'm not planning on getting too much into grinding yet. Just stalls, some grinding eventually on top of the ramp, plus they are helpful for drop ins. I'll probably do jumps off of ramps before I get into grinding much. I love jumps! I think the wide trucks are also more stable? I know nothing about aggressive skates really. And now I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, right? Opps! But I am going to look into used boots too, but seems like only 2 types of plates go with those trucks. I need to see if I can come up with another $200 though quick it seems. Thats how much boots and plates themselves would cost me. Gosh, didnt know I would end up with a hole in my wallet once I started skating, lol! Cant wait to go back to Disney World again, uh, um, I mean the skate park! Yeah, I am doing the mini ramps now, woo-hoo, lol. OK, still suck but that now places me as #1 aggressive roller skating girl in all of Maryland. (OK, no competition, but whose counting?)

May 6th, 2007, 05:22 PM	#9
keefertoro Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 51	there way out of my price range ...

May 9th, 2007, 07:46 PM	#11
tmezz Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Coastal South Carolina Posts: 39	Hey Dudette, The wider trucks will be more stable on the ramps, but harder to use on the flats. I like the hocky boots I have on my skates and they work really well. I only lace them up to just above my ankle where my skates have an extra stap that goes down to the heel and pulls the foot back. Only lacing partway up gives more freedom to move your ankle but plenty of support for stability when landing on the ramp or grinding. Hockey boots have thier own sizing unlike any other boots so it can be hard to find the right size, trying them on is the only sure way. As for plates the Sure-Grips Super-X would be fine, but you might want to look at the Sure-Grip Competitor plates also they are not much more money but they are supposed to be a little lighter and the wider trucks will fit them. Have fun!!!

May 9th, 2007, 08:28 PM	#12
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	Well, I dont think the competitors will fit those trucks. I think Im getting the PowerDyne nylon plate so it wont be too heavy for me to jump and all. Or I could do Suregrip Probe but I heard that plate flexes bigtime and sucks. So still not sure what to do. Just since I'm tiny, I need all the help I can get in lowering the weight in the skate dept. Yeah, I cant wait!! My boots now for outside are so darn big its misery. I'm sliding all over in them. I like them snug.

May 10th, 2007, 02:03 AM	#13
Demolishun Aggro Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,868	roller_dudette, "Guns, lots of guns..." err, I mean, "Socks, lots of socks...".

May 10th, 2007, 02:16 AM	#14
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	Guns? ROFL! Yeah, thick socks man, real thick, lol! Well, if things go good tomorrow, seeing the dentist, and I go home for free this time, I'll be putting my order in soon! So what its going to look like is probably PD nylons, with the Magnum Spoiler Light-weight flexible hockey boots, and once I get up those ramps I'll upgrade to the Supreme Roller narrow ramp trucks. Then I might also think about smaller, lighter weight wheels too. I have krytonics 70. Soft ride but I like them easy to turn! Then my feet will be COOL! Right now they are hot mamas, lol! But I'll ask Lisa bout those plates. Who knows, it might be a probe.

May 10th, 2007, 04:44 AM	#16
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	RollerSkater Dave, shes doing my skates and suggested the nylons. Shes good so I'm kinda leaving it up to her unless I can really make a solid decision. So far she hasnt given me bad advise. Only good. She said she skated on nylons and shes much bigger then I am and liked them and said they were much lighter. So trashing them isnt a concern. She thinks the wide trucks would be too heavy for me considering my size and I want to do that eventually. As soon as my shoulder heals and I get those skates, I want to really do ramps and eventually get into handplants, jumps and spins, get some aire. So not sure what to do. I dont weigh a lot and even she says the aggressive ones are heavy for her. I would wear a 6 though she thinks in those boots. I wear a 5 in Riedells though but those are built big. So my feet arent necessarily tiny. Tell me more. I'm confused. I live to skate so I want to be happy.

May 11th, 2007, 01:25 AM	#18
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	One more thing, isnt the competitor an art plate? Is it shorter? Any preferences between the nylon probe and powerdyne? I'm still baffled what to decide.

May 11th, 2007, 03:26 PM	#19
tmezz Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Coastal South Carolina Posts: 39	The plates (Super-X and Competitor) are similar and use the same trucks. They have the same kingpin and pivot geometry so if the trucks would fit the Super-X they would fit the Competitor. At least that is what I have gathered from people I haven't bought new trucks for mine YET that is part of my evil plan for the future. The biggest differences are supposed to be the finish of the plates and the alloy used to cast them which I have been told is a little lighter (not alot) in the Competitor. From the skating I have done I would think you would be happier on a metal plate even taking into account your small weight. The feel of the plate will be more like your artistic skates so you will be more comfortable on them from the get go and their durability will be greater while the fleaxbilty will be less. i find that the more stable my foot is the more confident I am that I can pull something off. Any flex in the plate would tend to throw me off balance. The first skates I built ( a long time ago ina galaxy far far away...)used "Chucks" (Chuck Taylor hightop canvas sneakers - ask your Dad) for boots and untill I added an internal plate to stiffen the sole they really messed me up. Anyway that is MESHO.

May 11th, 2007, 04:14 PM	#20
roller_dudette skate addict! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,351	Thanks, might get those. But I'm concerned since I want to do handplants and jumps on the ramps that the weight will feel like bricks. Doesnt the grind bar stabilize it? Think I wont go for wide trucks to begin with. Still a newbie. And for changing plates if I'm not happy, you just screw them off and screw on the new ones right? I might order today....... I might talk to Lisa and see what she says. But since I'm comfie with the artistic ones, which are metal, might be more comfie with the same idea.